OT - Los Angeles Football Stadium

[WayOutWest]

I had no idea.  Hope season tickets will be reasonable.

http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com/

[jemagee]

According to reports I've seen (this is what i was talking about in the 'politicos' thread I started earlier) and read, the building has been approved, but not until a team commits to the stadium...which is interesting as you'd then probably have a lame duck NFL team for at least one year, right?  Potential teams to move I think would be the jags, or the rams, the cards probably would have been a candidate if they didn't have their mini run right now...

[Wolverine]

According to reports I've seen (this is what i was talking about in the 'politicos' thread I started earlier) and read, the building has been approved, but not until a team commits to the stadium...which is interesting as you'd then probably have a lame duck NFL team for at least one year, right?  Potential teams to move I think would be the jags, or the rams, the cards probably would have been a candidate if they didn't have their mini run right now...

Cardinals aren't going anywhere.  They just had that Unv. of Phoenix Stadium built three years ago.

[jemagee]

Cardinals aren't going anywhere.  They just had that Unv. of Phoenix Stadium built three years ago.

Did they pay for it?  As far as I'm concerned, any team is capable of moving if a better deal is available...the reason I think the cardinals aren't moving has to do with their record the past couple years, but you gotta think a lot of teams would salivate at being part of the LA Market, cardinals also make sense from a divisional point of view whereas jacksonville doesn't...wouldn't require any realignment.

I still believe in the end it'll be the chargers who move.

[WayOutWest]

Cardinals aren't going anywhere.  They just had that Unv. of Phoenix Stadium built three years ago.

Did they pay for it?  As far as I'm concerned, any team is capable of moving if a better deal is available...the reason I think the cardinals aren't moving has to do with their record the past couple years, but you gotta think a lot of teams would salivate at being part of the LA Market, cardinals also make sense from a divisional point of view whereas jacksonville doesn't...wouldn't require any realignment.

I still believe in the end it'll be the chargers who move.

FYI: LA is looking to land TWO NFL teams to play in the new stadium.  On the link I posted there is an interview with the developer.  He mentioned everything is ready to go as soon as they get a written commitment from one NFL team to move to LA.  There are 6 or 7 candidates but it really came down to two or three.  They mentioned the Raiders, Chargers and 49'ers but those teams were very unlikely.  They said the real target is the Jags plus the Bills, they mentioned one or two others but I don't remember their names.  They said the biggest problems are financial (i.e. ticket sales) and the inability to build a new stadium.  One big plus about this stadium is that it won't be built with with tax dollers, just like Staples it will be privately funded.

I am already on the list for season tix. 

[jemagee]

I don't believe the Bills would ever move - the fan base even in Buffalo is just too 'dedicated'...plus again, realignment.

The spanos family has wanted to move north for a long while, and I think they'd jump at the chance if godell let them go.  Jags are rumored to be a possible move victim all the time but that would require some serious realignment - how do you work that out - the jags to the west and denver to south or do you put the cardinals in the afc south and the jags in the nfc west?

[Reality]

The Chargers aren't moving anywhere and Phillip Rivers is as good as Timmy Duncan.

I'll be at the Q rooting the Chargers on.  Only Norv Turnerovich can stop them.

[westkoast]

Last I heard on local sports radio was that they were only looking to go after out of state teams with the Jags still being the option that seems to be going in the right direction.  They were not going to get a crack at the chargers and the Raiders most certainly were not moving back down to LA.

It would be a good move for the Raiders to come back to LA because it would invigorate their fan base here to support in large numbers for the first few seasons.  Since it even sounds like a remotely good move they will not do it.  It's the Raiders.

From a jobs stand point I think it would be great for them to get this done.  That is just my opinion.  Have not seen an official number for the number of jobs it would generate but even 500-1000 more jobs for the next decade would be nice.  The area the stadium is proposed to be around has been hit very hard by unemployment.

[JoMal]

It would be a good move for the Raiders to come back to LA because it would invigorate their fan base here to support in large numbers for the first few seasons.  Since it even sounds like a remotely good move they will not do it.  It's the Raiders.

Hee, hee, hee!!!

I have been a Raiders' fan since the early 70's, so have seen them go from an elite NFL team to....well....how to put this.....the most embarassing pro team in history.

You might show support for the first year...even the second, But by the third year, if you are not plotting the death of Al Davis as you try to fall asleep on any given Sunday night during the fall, you are not one of us. 

[rickortreat]

I used to be Raiders fan, thinking that they were the AFC version of the Eagles. The fans appear similar, blue collar and fanatical. Just win baby....

But the Raiders blow chunks now, and have for more than just a few seasons.

Studies have shown that once the jobs for stadium construction are gone, having it there is revenue neutral. Angelino's find other ways to entertain themselves and the team would siphon money away from elsewhere.

Jobs that simply move money around, without actually creating wealth are not good investments and should not be funded by taxpayer dollars. Like Casino's.

[westkoast]

It would be a good move for the Raiders to come back to LA because it would invigorate their fan base here to support in large numbers for the first few seasons.  Since it even sounds like a remotely good move they will not do it.  It's the Raiders.

Hee, hee, hee!!!

I have been a Raiders' fan since the early 70's, so have seen them go from an elite NFL team to....well....how to put this.....the most embarassing pro team in history.

You might show support for the first year...even the second, But by the third year, if you are not plotting the death of Al Davis as you try to fall asleep on any given Sunday night during the fall, you are not one of us. 

I don't think you quite realize how big the Raider Nation is here in LA.  VERY feverish when it comes to the team.  I mean we even have Raiders theme marketing campaigns out here for Coors even though the team is 500+ miles away.  I think that die hard Raider fans would be so happy to be able to see the team that they would support for years and years regardless.  While at the same time plotting to kill Al Davis lol

I used to be Raiders fan, thinking that they were the AFC version of the Eagles. The fans appear similar, blue collar and fanatical. Just win baby....

But the Raiders blow chunks now, and have for more than just a few seasons.

Studies have shown that once the jobs for stadium construction are gone, having it there is revenue neutral. Angelino's find other ways to entertain themselves and the team would siphon money away from elsewhere.

Jobs that simply move money around, without actually creating wealth are not good investments and should not be funded by taxpayer dollars. Like Casino's.

After the construction jobs they will need people to clean, sit at concession stands, provide security, provide maintenance, run lights and the jumbotron, run the clock, etc etc etc so I don't know how that wouldn't benefit locales in the area.  The stadium doesn't get built and just run itself.  There are plenty of jobs it will create.

And again, I think I've said this many times before, but there is no tax payer money going into this stadium.  The developer is taking the brunt of the financial burden.  No funds have been set aside for them.  The only thing the state government has done is allowed them to side step an environmental hold up.

[Reality]

After the construction jobs they will need people to clean, sit at concession stands, provide security, provide maintenance, run lights and the jumbotron, run the clock, etc etc etc so I don't know how that wouldn't benefit locales in the area.  The stadium doesn't get built and just run itself.  There are plenty of jobs it will create.

And again, I think I've said this many times before, but there is no tax payer money going into this stadium.  The developer is taking the brunt of the financial burden.  No funds have been set aside for them.  The only thing the state government has done is allowed them to side step an environmental hold up.

Mostly minimum wage part time b.s. jobs.
Which is better then nothing.  Esp if they tell the truth and do not gouge the taxpayers.

[WayOutWest]

And again, I think I've said this many times before, but there is no tax payer money going into this stadium.  The developer is taking the brunt of the financial burden.  No funds have been set aside for them.  The only thing the state government has done is allowed them to side step an environmental hold up.

I mentioned that as well, they are using the same tactic as Staples Center, no tax dollers, all private funding.  The other thing Rick is missing is that there are many other buisness being built around the Stadium (i.e. restaurants, movie theaters, retail shopping, ect...).  Just like Staples Center.  Don't know if they will go as far as building a concert hall in the area as well like they did with Staples.  The Staples Center area is always busy, even when there are no sporting events going on.

[ziggy]

FYI: LA is looking to land TWO NFL teams to play in the new stadium.

The idea that they will get two NFL teams is not realistic.  They lost the Rams and the Raiders for a reason.  At the same time, I would expect USC to move in, and perhaps UCLA.  With and NFL team, and two premier college programs, plus an MLS this stadium will generate significant revenues.

[jemagee]

Why would USC move in? 

Why would USC and UCLA move into the same football stadium farther away from their campuses.

Makes no sense