Here is a little info on Gasol -- definately sounds like a worthless piece of trash who can't do anything, huh, ziggy?
February 19, 2008
The current leader in efficiency rating in the ACB League, Marc Gasol has built a pretty mistake-free style of game that helps him to emerge as a statistical standout. He?s long, very strong, nicely skilled, and very smart playing the game. A menace in the low post, he shows solid footwork, a decent jump-hook and a very nice turnaround jumper. Indeed his shooting range extends out to the three-point line, while he greatly combines his scoring power with his passing game, not really looking for definitive passes, but feeding his team?s offensive flow by distributing the ball from both the high and low post.
In spite of all that, his nice effort in the quarterfinal game wasn't enough for Akasvayu Girona to overcome an extremely solid Real Madrid team. Despite being regularly double-teamed, Gasol managed to amass 19 points, most of them coming off continuations towards the basket, and other off-ball stuff near the rim. The attention he delivered from Real Madrid defense didn't allow him to produce much in one-on-one plays in the low post, but he still connected on two thunderous one-handed dunks from there, one of them after capturing the baseline with an excellent spin move where he showed nice footspeed.
However, Gasol's great statistical production doesn't always necessarily reflect a dominating performance on the floor. Indeed, it didn't in this Copa. He wasn't really a go-to guy for Girona on the offensive end (mainly because of Real Madrid?s double-teaming defense, that's true), but especially he doesn't make a great impact on the defensive end. His limited mobility gets exploited in pick-and-roll situations that the opponents throw at him; he's not a great intimidator, he allows smaller opponents to shoot over him; and given his superb size, he's not the best rebounder around.
Still, Pau's younger brother is one of the most promising centers in Europe, and probably an underrated piece -by the American media- in the recent blockbuster trade that involved both brothers. Anyway, he doesn't seem to fit too well with the current Memphis Grizzlies game style, but he might be a nice asset to work in a trade in the near future.
Once again Randy, you make up shyte. Please show me where I said he was a worthless piece of crap. COME ON ASSHOLE DO IT. You were comparing him to Pau, potentially as good, and I said poppycock.
I guess if you can't discuss -- try calling names, huh, zig?
HE WAS A SECOND ROUND PICK FOR CHRIST SAKE. IF HE IS SO DAMN GOOD WHY DID HE SLIP TO THE SECOND ROUND? WHAT HAS HE DONE IN SPAIN?
Hmm, you certainly don't seem to be extolling much of any kind of real basketball talent. I'm trying to read how you see much value in him in your statements -- it's kind of tough to come to any kind of conclusion there, zig.
I don't know why you have such a bug up your butt recently -- suddenly every post becomes a personal attack complete with name-calling. Is that how you want to be treated on this board? Have you watched any feed for Marc Gasol? I looked up some games online after the Lakers drafted Gasol -- I saw a lot of potential there -- whether he lives up to it or not, is another. Obviously, many thought that Bynum would never amount to anything -- at this point, Oden hasn't done anything in this league -- I'm not trying to say that Marc Gasol and Oden have the same potential or the same abilities -- just saying that neither have proven anything and they won't until they actually get on the court. Until then, it's all conjecture and speculation. It's some of what I thought this board was all about!
Come on Randy save me accusations of flame wars and how I have a bug up my butt. It takes two to tango, and your attempts to point the fingers everywhere else is tiresome. If you don't want flame wars look in the mirror. How many intentional flame posts towards Reality have you made in the last 10 days? Reality brings it on, that is his gig, and he has never claimed otherwise. You on the other hand do. You don't want flame wars, and yet you intentionally get into, and in fact start them.
I am all for talking basketball. What I am not up for is you taking my statements arguing against your points, and then have you turn them again and again into something I didn't say.
Lets look at our two recent exchanges. You make some statements about the Rockets and Yao. I challenged your statements, and made my own comments. We disgreed, plain and simple, no flaming, no bomb throwing. You then proceeded to turn what I said into something other that what I did say, and I called you on it. I then went over and over trying to paraphrase you, which you agreed to. At that point you then say you never said that, and I had enough with the double talk. I didn't try and turn the Rockets thread into a flame war. It wouldn't have gotten there if you had just been honest about what I said and what you said. If you can't see that then there is no hope.
Same thing here. My whole point is real simple. The Lakers took the Grizz to the cleaners, and no amount of rationalization and propaganda will change that. MSC, Laker Dan, Way Out West, and Westkoast all recognize that, and they just sit back giggling at their good fortune. Nothing at all wrong with that. No need to try and convince the world that this was anything close to a smart move by the Grizz, just be happy with your good fortune. You though feel compelled by your irrational hatred of Reality to try and convince all of us that the Grizz came out of this looking great. I challenged your points, that is all I did, point by point. Your response was like always, you turn my words into something I didn't say, and I had finally had enough. I don't have a problem with you personally, and I can carry on a rational discussion with you, but if you are going to continue to make up crap about what I say, then be ready for me to respond. If you want to take extreme positions expect people to respond.