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Re: Eddie Jordan Stinks.
« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2009, 01:40:06 PM »
I think that loss came down to two things:

1.  We are not nearly as good as the Cavs.  (Every time they went to their bench, I found myself saying "dear lord, they have HIM, too!").  In fact I took that loss as a decent sign as we almost beat a team with a winning record. :-\

2.  Eddie has no idea how to win.  I never once thought we were GOING to win...and have rarely felt that way at any point during the season.  (When I had, we eventually lost.)  His substitutions never pan out...he makes no adjustments...hell, he doesn't even call plays out of TO's.  I can't say there are ANY coaches we'd face over whom I'd feel we had an advantage.  Can you?

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Re: Eddie Jordan Stinks.
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2009, 02:42:42 PM »
Iverson unavailable, start willie green.

Strong move

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« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2009, 03:50:13 PM »
Eddie Jordan's reign of terror continues.

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« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2009, 10:07:32 PM »
Nice effort.  Two very good games in a row against two elite teams.  Be nice to go on a little bit of a run, eh?

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« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2009, 02:07:30 PM »
So, what is our bench going to look like when fully healthy?  Will Holiday/AI continue to start?  If so, that would leave a bench of Williams, Brand, Speights, and Kapono.  Not bad on paper. 

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« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2009, 02:09:20 PM »
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Will Holiday/AI continue to start?  If so, that would leave a bench of Williams, Brand, Speights, and Kapono.  Not bad on paper.

Of course not - Eddie Jordan was drooling over an Iverson Williams back court when Iverson was signed, Holiday back to the bench, just hoping not as far down the original 'rotation' as he used to be

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« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2009, 03:33:46 PM »
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Will Holiday/AI continue to start?  If so, that would leave a bench of Williams, Brand, Speights, and Kapono.  Not bad on paper.

Of course not - Eddie Jordan was drooling over an Iverson Williams back court when Iverson was signed, Holiday back to the bench, just hoping not as far down the original 'rotation' as he used to be

He did say that he liked the idea of Iverson/Williams together, but that was before Iverson/Holiday played together and he's since stated that he likes the Iverson/Holiday back court.  That said, it's difficult to demote Williams with how well he's played and I wouldn't be surprised to see EJ start him next to Iverson, no matter how vulnerable it makes us defensively.  Still, it's not set in stone.  I guess we'll all find out for sure next week.  Can't wait to see how Eddie Jordan handles this one...

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« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2009, 04:20:46 PM »
That all depends on if you are or are not a believer of the 'you don't lose your spot because of injury'  - if you buy that theory - Gehrig doesn't pipp Pipp

I still prefer a starting back court of Holiday and Iguodala

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« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2009, 04:38:44 PM »
I would also prefer Holiday/Iguodala to start at the 1 and 2.  I just know that Jordan doesn't have the balls to bench Iverson and I've sort of accepted that it's not happening.  We won't know where EJ stands on the 'you don't lose your spot because of injury' theory until next week when Williams returns.     

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« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2009, 06:14:17 PM »
What is so bad about Iguodala and Williams with Holiday and Iverson coming off the bench?  The concern should be getting Brand into the starting line-up and getting more play for Jason Smith.  The guards are fine and give Jordan lots of flexibility- he could even put all of them on the floor with Willie Green for a real small team, and with that group, he could get way with that some nights and win!

Jru Holiday is the best natural passer on the team and he has better instincts than most. Jordan realizes he's a better player than Willie and that's saying something. That puts him at #4 on the guard depth chart, behind Andre, Allen and Lou, right where he belongs.

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Re: Eddie Jordan Stinks.
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2009, 11:48:18 PM »
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What is so bad about Iguodala and Williams with Holiday and Iverson coming off the bench?

The fact that Iverson will blow a gasket ?

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Re: Eddie Jordan Stinks.
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2009, 04:53:44 PM »
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What is so bad about Iguodala and Williams with Holiday and Iverson coming off the bench?

The fact that Iverson will blow a gasket ?

I'm as big an Iverson fan as anyone, but his feelings about whether he should start or not are quite frankly irrelevant, and wouldn't sway me at all. Either he's a real teamate or he isn't. What matters is what's best for the team and if that means an older AI coming off the bench, then he should be willing. If not, he can always watch the games from the stands!

If Elton Brand, a legitimate 20 and 10 guy is tolerating it, AI has no reason to complain. As a fan of the team, I do have the right to be pissed at Jordan's rotations and decisions, and apparently a lot of us feel the same way.

In addition AI is old and may not be able to handle the wear and tear of starting. I would tell him that I want him for the playoffs, and to just give me 20-25 min, of great play off the bench.  Or, we could always let Lou and AI fight over it- whoever has the best stats wins.

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« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2009, 05:51:57 PM »
You know - this Iverson problem is easily solved by cutting him before his contract is guaranteed.

Just thinking outside the box

Trying to change the Para Dig Um

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Re: Eddie Jordan Stinks.
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2009, 12:18:37 AM »
You know - this Iverson problem is easily solved by cutting him before his contract is guaranteed.

Just thinking outside the box

Trying to change the Para Dig Um

Unfortunately, us thinking outside the box doesn't change what the front office is thinking.

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« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2009, 09:37:48 AM »
Well sure it doesn't, but what fun would it be if we didn't at least try psychic manipulation