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Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« on: November 26, 2008, 04:07:24 PM »
Been reading about how CP3, and the rest of the Hornets, have tunned out B. Scott.  They team looks miserable, there is no chemistry and the team is in a downward spiral.  This is news to me...anyboy else heard about the "going ons" in Charlotte?
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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 04:11:54 PM »
Sounds like BS to me for a number of reasons:

1) Byron Scott gets a long with most of the players who he has coached based on comments I've seen.

2) Unless he completely changed up his coaching style over the summer I don't see how they would rise up against him.  They had a lot of success last year and the season is still early.
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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008, 04:13:29 PM »
Man, that's one old blog you're reading if it's still talkinga bout the Charlotte Hornets :)

I usually read hoopshype rumors page daily - they get most of the stuff that's out there - and haven't seen anything about that either.


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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 04:14:45 PM »
Man, that's one old blog you're reading if it's still talkinga bout the Charlotte Hornets :)

I usually read hoopshype rumors page daily - they get most of the stuff that's out there - and haven't seen anything about that either.



I see you guys talk about the Sixers in the other forum all the time  ;)
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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 04:16:58 PM »
There are quite a few more active sixer discussion boards out there - i've been banned from all of them

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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 04:21:40 PM »
There are quite a few more active sixer discussion boards out there - i've been banned from all of them

I don't understand why to be honest.  At times I've seen you rub people the wrong way in a thread but nothing that seems all that serious.  You disagree, they disagree.  No big deal.
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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 04:25:47 PM »
I've mellowed I think

Derek actually requested my ban at realgm.com - so ask him - i tend to have an issue with people i perceive as utter and complete idiots, and sadly i can't just ignore it i try to cure them of their moronity...gets me in trouble.

So safari accepted moronity as a word...huh...that's interesting

A few places I actually got banned on purpose - libertyballers might grow into a solid blog like thegoodphight and i'll be 'fine' talkinga bout sixers - focusing on the projects for my web site stuff limits the time for other stuff - and this place is fun :)

Besides, I can only talk about how terrible willie green is, how louis williams is not a point guard, how utterly basketball dumb sam dalembert is and how utterly bad a coach mo cheeks is so many times

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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 04:25:49 PM »
There are quite a few more active sixer discussion boards out there - i've been banned from all of them

I don't understand why to be honest.  At times I've seen you rub people the wrong way in a thread but nothing that seems all that serious.  You disagree, they disagree.  No big deal.

It's cause he's "jewy", that's why I would want him banned anyway....  
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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008, 04:27:19 PM »
Hey my father was lutheran before he died a couple weeks ago, so not only did jesus die for my sins i killed him too?

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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2008, 04:27:52 PM »
Wheres the link to the blog saying this W.O.W?

I mean aside from Jason Kidd I don't think I've heard of players being upset/revolting on Byron Scott.   I even thought Jason Kidd was out of line when he was upset with Byron Scott seeing as his team hit two WC powerhouses that they had no answer for in the middle.  Certainly Kenyon Martin was not going to handle Shaq and Tim Duncan.  Todd McCulloch sure as heck was not going to either.
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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2008, 04:29:02 PM »
Hey my father was lutheran before he died a couple weeks ago, so not only did jesus die for my sins i killed him too?

Jesus was a little too "jewy" for my taste as well....I'd ban him from here as well...
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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2008, 04:31:45 PM »
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I mean aside from Jason Kidd I don't think I've heard of players being upset/revolting on Byron Scott.   I even thought Jason Kidd was out of line when he was upset with Byron Scott seeing as his team hit two WC powerhouses that they had no answer for in the middle.  Certainly Kenyon Martin was not going to handle Shaq and Tim Duncan.  Todd McCulloch sure as heck was not going to either.

I always have thought of Jason Kidd as a little bit of a bitch - so he probably was out of line.

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Jesus was a little too "jewy" for my taste as well....I'd ban him from here as well...

There's a joke in there with jewy and chewy - but i'm not smart enough to come up with it

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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2008, 04:32:23 PM »
Wheres the link to the blog saying this W.O.W?

Shut your stupid face!  >:(

Here is a little of it:

After sitting a few rows behind their bench for Monday's game against the Clippers, I realized the Hornets' problems went deeper. You can tell from the stands when teams are happy and everyone is on the same page. For instance, I watched the Spurs beat the Clippers without Manu and Parker-Longoria; as long as Duncan and Popovich are around, and as long as they keep building around character guys, things can't splinter for them. That Pop-Duncan foundation is just too strong. You could see it during every timeout huddle, you could see it with how they interacted and supported each other, and you could see it with the way they carried themselves. When Roger Mason drained the game-winning 3-pointer, there was no chest-pounding or pointing to God, just a quiet fist pump and a leisurely walk back to the huddle. It's a professional team in every sense.
 
The Hornets gave me a different vibe. They seemed a little detached, surprising since they have so many character guys on the team: Chris Paul, Tyson Chandler, David West, James Posey. Really, their only chemistry wild card is Mike James and he barely plays. I mistakenly believed it would be one of those lovefest teams that players josh around during the shootarounds before each half and hug each other too much. Nope. Midway through the second quarter, I asked my friend Tollin, "Are we sure the Hornets like their coach?" After all, the Nets practically revolted against Byron Scott four years ago. So there is a precedent.

We studied the Hornets for the next hour like marriage counselors. The good news is that, when you attend Clippers games, you inadvertently earn a Ph.D. in "How To Tell When a Team Despises Their Coach." Even the football team in "Varsity Blues" liked Bud Kilmer more than the Clippers like Mike Dunleavy. If he doesn't get fired soon, I would put 10-to-1 odds on a timeout huddle this year when everyone slowly closes in around him, we won't be able to tell what happened for about 30 seconds, and then they'll back away to reveal the coach in a bloodied, unconscious lump.

Anyway, that Ph.D. comes down to paying attention to the little things. The way players walk toward the bench after a timeout. (Goes one of three ways: "I'm interested to hear coach's thoughts," "I look forward to sitting down" or "Great, I get to listen to this bonehead again.") How fast someone jumps up when the coach calls for them as a sub. (If they jump up fast, that means they're totally in the game; if they jump up slow, that means they were either daydreaming about that night's sexual conquest or imagining he's punching the coach in the face.) Whether they listen or don't listen in the huddle. The body language of the coach himself. And the telltale sign ... what happens when a top player gets called over by coach when someone is shooting free throws.

This can unfold one of three ways:

A. Player runs over respectfully and seems genuinely interested in the coach's wisdom. Watch what happens when Popovich calls over Duncan or Parker in a Spurs game. Total respect. They look like someone jogging over to a police officer.

B. Player jogs over, doesn't seem totally interested, but doesn't want to seem like a jerk either. This usually sums up 75 percent of the league.

C. Player does a double-take and his head kicks back briefly (like he's thinking, "Really, I have to talk to this guy again???"). He saunters over disdainfully. When he reaches the coach, he makes eye contact for the first two seconds, then starts subconsciously pulling away (first with his eyes, then with his body leaning back toward the coach), and at about the six-second mark, he just starts walking back toward the court whether the coach is finished talking or not. Everything about the exchange says, "I've just had it with this freaking guy."

I mistakenly believed that Chris Paul and Scott had an "A" relationship but in the second half of Monday's game, it was revealed that they were a "C." At least right now. Translation: I am no longer sold on the 2009 Hornets.
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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2008, 04:33:41 PM »
The source is Bill Simmons...I don't like Bill Simmons

It was New Orleans 3rd game in 4 days, 4th in six with a nice little travel circuit of sacramento, oklahoma city, new orleans (back to back nights) and Los ANgeles

Maybe they were tired?
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Re: Rumors and blogs...Byron Scott has lost the Hornets?
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2008, 04:35:39 PM »
The source is Bill Simmons...I don't like Bill Simmons

Where can I find the whole article?  I only caught these tidbits from a blogger.
"History shouldn't be a mystery"
"Our story is real history"
"Not his story"

"My people's culture was strong, it was pure"
"And if not for that white greed"
"It would've endured"

"Laker hate causes blindness"