What point? That he can not complete simple trouble shooting tasks to figure out a glitch with copy/paste? Trouble shooting requires application and analysis levels of thinking, it is far beyond the lowest level of memorization/knowledge thinking, you know the kind of thinking required for spelling.
FYI, I am joking. You know joking, like the big joke you made of yourself with the following:
Language, spoken or written, should be clear and free of mistakes if possible, and the use of proper grammer important to maintain.
...grammer important....
Uggg, me Tarzan, you Jane, grammAr important. Nuff said!
Now that is embarassing. So embarassing that I went back to the original post and corrected the spelling. To me, it is worth it.
There are a tons of "signs" people can attribute to reflections of a civilization. Art and music are always thrown into the mix of a "sign", it usually comes down to the expertise of the person making the statement (i.e. poets say it's poetry, soldiers will say the military and NBA players will say strip clubs).
I know spelling and grammar are important and we should put more effort in that area. I also know it's not as important as people want to make it out to be, not to mention there are so many tools out there to fix that problem. Just think back over history about who made their marks, memory thinkers or critical thinkers? Granted memorization/retaining knowledge is the foundation for all higher levels of thinking, it has become a foundation replaced by technology and honestly I prefer my kids put their effort in math than english, that's not to say they should ignore it, reading comprehension is very important and you don't get to that level without being able to remember how to actually read.
Learning math is great. Trying to explain what you learned and how to express it is just as important, otherwise what math you may learn will just knock around in your head with no outlet. The true art, the true extension of civilization, is the ability to clearly express what you have discovered or learned in a way that makes others see your point.
I've written technical specs and functional requirements for the FDA so I know how important spelling and grammar can be but I just don't put that level of effort around here for various reasons. I just find it annoying that spelling and grammar are used as a measuring stick by some around here when that measuring stick is far below my standards. It's reminds me of when people used to compare Japanese and German engineering to my "cowboy" American engineering. It happened on several occasions in Europe and my response was always the same: What is the name of the that Japanese/German space shuttle? While they may guage engineering abilities by the excellence of their televisions and automobiles, Americans can point to the space shuttle, stealth bomer, the MRI machine, Raptor and Voyager I as examples of American engineering.
This tanget is making me feel really gay, in a grammar Nazi kind of way.
Yeah, and "guage" and "bomer" must be European engineering terms unfamiliar to the typical American grammar detective.
As for your gayness, after this and your admittance of watching dog shows, we on the board understand how you might view your own sexual confusion. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
BTW, this European mentality to call anything coming out of America a "cowboy" whatever, is funny, if you think about what true cowboys were really all about.
As for superior American engineers, I will truly be impressed when an alternative to the combustible engine gets designed on
THIS side of the Atlantic and put into mass production. At least the European engineers have recognized that this
ACTUALLY IS A PROBLEM and have tried to implement alternatives to rectify that issue.
But let's not praise the European innovaters too extravagantly. (JoMal is about to provide an educational and historical tidbit, so you youngsters can stop reading now):
Once upon a time, there was a Swiss watch maker, who figured out a noval way to keep time. What he did was very surprising. He invented digital timekeeping. He tested it and realized his timepiece not only kept excellent time, but could be made much cheaper over time then the traditional (and oh, so famous and snootty) Swiss watchmakers of the time could ever conceive. He brought his invention to the attention of the Guild of Swiss Watchmakers, or whoever were the old, Swiss traditionalists who ran watchmaking in Switzerland back then. They took a look at this novelty, turned their snooty, old, wrinkled, decrepit, feeble, infirm (come, wk, help me out here on some good adjectives for ancient people) noses up at the idea and told him they would not consider using such a device as an insult to their traditions of watchmaking. Get out!!! Or something just as negative. Discouraged for a while, the spry, skateboarding, gravitational-wanting pants hanging low around his knees, cough syrup-mixed-with-vodka drinking, young inventor took his digital watch to an international watch convention being held in Geneva. He set up a booth, along with all the other watchmakers who were displaying the old, traditional watches of Switzerland all around him and tried to sell his novel idea to someone with any insight. The other old, Swiss watchmakers continued their snootynosed way and walked on by.
Then a delegation of Japanese watchmakers walked by. Most did the Swiss thing and chuckled at the digital watch as they walked by. One, however, took a very long double-take. He slowly smiled, and looked up at the fuzzy faced 10 year old lad in front of him who had come up with the idea.
Within ten years, the Japanese had completely taken over the watchmaking industry and Swiss-made watches were left for old grandfathers to buy so they could pass them down to uncaring grandkids, who preferred the spiffy Japanese models that were cheaper and could do so much more anyway, like time how long it took to rob a liquer store. Finally, years later, the Swiss came up with the digital Swatch to compete with the Japanese. Too late. After centuries of being the watchmakers of the world, the Swiss had to settle as being the bankers of the Nazi's instead while defending their neutrality in the war.
This example is taught as an example of Paradigms in management classes. To be ready for change and incorporate it when change happens, or you will be the one left behind.