Jordan won 6 championships, with Scottie Pippen a common teammate for every one of them. Kobe's "common teammate" is Derek Fisher.
And here a lot of us thought it was Shaq and Gasol who benefitted Kobme the most.
So lets see, Fisher is as good as Shaq? And Gasol?
Not my point. My point is that Kobe has done it with DIFFERENT teammates. His only common teammate for all the championships is Derek Fisher. Jordan *ALWAYS* had a common teammate for *ALL* his teams that won, and that guy was one of the best at his position. Kobe's teammate in such a similar situation has changed.
The fact that Jordan was "the man" is over-emphasized. He was the feature player. While Bryant was not the feature guy on the first three Laker championships with him on the team, that does not invalidate his place. Jordan was the league's top 2 guard at the time of his championships, and Bryant has been the league's top two-guard at the time of his. The fact that Bryant played alongside the league's best center at the time shouldn't invalidate his own place.
6 legit championships as the unquestionable leader is = to 2 as the (debateable) leader. Mmmmkay.
And, again, you over-emphasize the importance of being "the man." The fact that Worthy and Abdul-Jabbar were MVPs in the playoffs for the Lakers doesn't diminish the fact that Magic Johnson was instrumental to the picture. Heck, one year, Abdul-Jabbar was the LEAGUE MVP, but Magic was the PLAYOFF MVP. So which one was "the man"? Answer: it doesn't matter. BOTH were critical to the mix. Just like Shaq/Gasol and Kobe or Pippen and Jordan.
And as for having Bill Wennington as a center, I could point out that Kobe had Greg Foster. Wennington, like Foster, was never a starter.
Get this weak stuff out.
Classic Laker posterism.
Foster played 3 freaking minutes the entire playoffs! The one and only season he was with Kobme.
Foster started 8 games for the Lakers.
Wentington started 50+ games for the Bulls during 3 seasons of their second 3 peat.
Minutes? Foster 7.3
Wentington double digits pretty much thruout. 15 13 and 10.
Oh i guess we need to go on to Luc Longely. Since he is just as good as Shaq and Gasol too.
Now tell me who Jordans *minimum of two All Stars on every team* were.
Then tell me who Lebron James were in Cleveland.
NO comparison.
Bird had plenty of help? You betchya.
He was playing against Mo Malone, Dr. J, and Bobby Jones just to win the Division, let alone the Conf.
Kobme lined up against Golden State.
You go ahead and slobber over his last two *Championships*.
I'll take quality over quantity any time.
THIS IS THE *LAST* TIME YOU WILL *EVER* ACCUSE ME OF "LAKER POSTERISM." UNDERSTAND THAT NOW. I'M TIRED OF DEALING WITH ANYTHING THAT DISAGREES WITH YOUR WARPED SENSE OF THINGS BEING TIED TO THE F****** LAKERS. TIE ME TO THE LAKERS JUST ONE MORE TIME - EVEN JUST INSINUATE IT IN ANY WAY, AS OBLIQUELY AS YOU THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH - AND I'M ADDING YOU TO THE IGNORE LIST. BE WARNED!
Wennington started 50 plus games? I think not. 20 games in 1996 (none playoff), 19 games in 1997 (wasn't even on the playoff roster), and 8 in 1998 (none playoff). Had you used Luc Longley at the start, you would have had a point - assuming, of course, that your point is that center is the most critical place to have a star player. At which point, I'm going to start bad-mouthing pretty much everyone who isn't a center (including your precious Larry Bird, who had Parish with him for every championship), and point out that my "greatest ever" list, includes 3 centers in the top 4 (along with Jordan).
Jordan teamed with Cartwright, Pippen, and Grant in his first three championships, and Pippen and Rodman in his second three. (Not going to reach onto the deep bench for Parish and the like.) Kobe had his help in the first two (Shaq, Green/Grant, Rice/Richmond), and the last (Gasol/Artest). But two years ago? Or the third?
When did LeBron James get into this discussion? He plays a different position, hasn't won a championship yet, and hasn't even been discussed in this thread for *ANY* reason yet (and is at least three or four years removed from being there, since this is a CAREER summary).