Eastern Division W-L records

[Reality]

CENTRAL 80-69        
Cleveland    26    4    
Detroit    17    11    
Milwaukee    14    17    
Chicago    13    17    
Indiana    10    20

Atlantic 78-72
Boston    28    4    
New J    15    15    
Phila     12    17    
Toronto    12    18        
New York    11    18        

SOUTHEAST 75-72   
Orlando    24    6        
Atlanta    19    10        
Miami    16    13    
Charlotte    11    20    
Washington  5     23

My apologies to B-Rad on not getting this posted on the promised day (yesterday), very cold regional temps here in SoCal, during the Chargers game many at home watching game while burning wood.  Neighbors had near housefire, went to assist.  Your Pacific Patsies still hold the worst % by far tho. 

[WayOutWest]

Boston is in a division where they are the ONLY team above .500?  We have a winner!  Boston is the biggest wuss in the wussiest division in the NBA!!!  I guess Boston has the distinction of the most over rated record in NBA history! 

[westkoast]

How are we suppose to know which division is the worst one?  Shouldn't this be color coded in green?  And also given a goofy name?

[WayOutWest]

How are we suppose to know which division is the worst one?  Shouldn't this be color coded in green?  And also given a goofy name?

CENTRAL 80-69       
Cleveland    26    4   
Detroit    17    11   
Milwaukee    14    17   
Chicago    13    17   
Indiana    10    20

Faglantic 78-72
Boston    28    4   
New J    15    15   
Phila     12    17   
Toronto    12    18       
New York    11    18       

SOUTHEAST 75-72   
Orlando    24    6       
Atlanta    19    10       
Miami    16    13   
Charlotte    11    20   
Washington  5     23

[rickortreat]

Boston is in a division where they are the ONLY team above .500?  We have a winner!  Boston is the biggest wuss in the wussiest division in the NBA!!!  I guess Boston has the distinction of the most over rated record in NBA history! 

Have you taken a look at the Laker's division lately?  At least the Atlantic division has a winning record!

[WayOutWest]

Have you taken a look at the Laker's division lately?  At least the Atlantic division has a winning record!

Wow, I thought only Spurs fans could be that clueless.

[westkoast]

Boston is in a division where they are the ONLY team above .500?  We have a winner!  Boston is the biggest wuss in the wussiest division in the NBA!!!  I guess Boston has the distinction of the most over rated record in NBA history! 

Have you taken a look at the Laker's division lately?  At least the Atlantic division has a winning record!

You obviously missed W.O.W's point but let me ask you this just for fun...

What team can beat PHX in that division?  If you take the Lakers and Celtics out of their respective divisions to leave the other teams out there then you will see even tho the Pacific has a losing record they have two better teams.  The Atlantic has ONE team that will actually do something in the playoffs.

[Reality]

Just for fun B-Rad I did indeed "take the Lakers and Celtics out of their respective divisions to leave the other teams out there.."

Pacific minus the Lakers leaves:
Phoenix    18    12    
Gold State  10    23    
LA Clippers     8    22    
Sacramento 8    24    

Of which you claim "then you will see even tho the Pacific has a losing record they have two better teams."
Would that second team be GState, Clippers or Sactown?

The Atlantic has ONE team that will actually do something in the playoffs.

And just how did the Atlantics 2nd place team New Jersey do in their most recent trip out west, including vs Pacific Patsies?
LA Clippers    W 112-95    
LA Lakers    L 93-120    
Sacrament W 116-114 OT    
Utah            W 105-88    
Phoenix    W 117-109    

Yeah rick you missed WoWs *point*.  Easy to do when there is none.

[WayOutWest]

Just for fun B-Rad I did indeed "take the Lakers and Celtics out of their respective divisions to leave the other teams out there.."

Pacific minus the Lakers leaves:
Phoenix    18    12    
Gold State  10    23    
LA Clippers     8    22    
Sacramento 8    24    

Of which you claim "then you will see even tho the Pacific has a losing record they have two better teams."
Would that second team be GState, Clippers or Sactown?

What happened to the Faglantic division minus the Celtics?  You know the conference with ZERO teams over .500 when you take out the Celtics?  You know, the WEAKEST division in the NBA, the TRUE patsies of the NBA.

And just how did the Atlantics 2nd place team New Jersey do in their most recent trip out west, including vs Pacific Patsies?
LA Clippers    W 112-95    
LA Lakers    L 93-120    
Sacrament W 116-114 OT    
Utah            W 105-88    
Phoenix    W 117-109    

Yeah rick you missed WoWs *point*.  Easy to do when there is none.

Is that the same New Jersey team that is UNDER .500?

OWNED!  Completely! 

[WayOutWest]

And just how did the Atlantics 2nd place team New Jersey do in their most recent trip out west, including vs Pacific Patsies?
LA Clippers    W 112-95    
LA Lakers    L 93-120    
Sacrament W 116-114 OT    
Utah            W 105-88    
Phoenix    W 117-109    

How did the overrated Celtics do against the Pacific Division?  1 for 3 OWNAGE by the Pacific over the Celtics.  Throw in last nights Portland game and it's 1 for 4 PWND'ing of the Celtics by the WC!!!! 

    You are getting clowned Reality....make a new years resolution to get a clue regarding basketball....memorizing box scores doesn't help BTW.   

[Reality]

Just for fun B-Rad I did indeed "take the Lakers and Celtics out of their respective divisions to leave the other teams out there.."

Pacific minus the Lakers leaves:
Phoenix    18    12    
Gold State  10    23    
LA Clippers     8    22    
Sacramento 8    24    

Of which you claim "then you will see even tho the Pacific has a losing record they have two better teams."
Would that second team be GState, Clippers or Sactown?

What happened to the Faglantic division minus the Celtics?  You know the conference with ZERO teams over .500 when you take out the Celtics?  You know, the WEAKEST division in the NBA, the TRUE patsies of the NBA.

And just how did the Atlantics 2nd place team New Jersey do in their most recent trip out west, including vs Pacific Patsies?
LA Clippers    W 112-95    
LA Lakers    L 93-120    
Sacrament W 116-114 OT    
Utah            W 105-88    
Phoenix    W 117-109    

Yeah rick you missed WoWs *point*.  Easy to do when there is none.

Is that the same New Jersey team that is UNDER .500?

rrrrrraaaaaauuugh self proclaimed owned  Completely! 

Atlantic minus Celtics:
50-68
Pacific Patsies minues the Laker Marketers: 30-77

Yeah WoW, you really *owned* me.  Again. RRRrrrraaaaagh.

Realowned.

[WayOutWest]

Atlantic minus Celtics:
50-68
Pacific Patsies minues the Laker Marketers: 30-77

Yeah WoW, you really *owned* me.  Again. RRRrrrraaaaagh.

Realowned.

How did the Celtics do SPECIFICALLY against the Pacific beasts?

OWNED!

[westkoast]

After you remove the two best teams in the league, what team in the Atlantic is better than Phoenix?  Can Rick or Reality please answer this question directly.

Also oh dense one, why are you completely ignoring that there is only one .500 team in that division?  Why are you not mocking that division and the teams in that division?

[Joe Vancil]

So - which makes a division stronger - total record, teams with playoff legitimacy, or lack of dogmeat teams in a division?

In my mind, there's no question that with the Lakers and Suns, the Pacific division is stronger than the Atlantic, with the Celtics and four teams that are lottery teams if they're in the West.

Remove the games played WITHIN THEIR OWN DIVISION, and the standings look like this:

1.  Lakers     20-4       .833  1
2.  Celtics     23-5       .821  -
3.  Suns       17-10     .630  5.5
4.  Nets        13-16     .448 10.5
5.  Raptors    12-15     .444 10.5
6.  Knicks     11-16      .407 11.5
7.  Sixers      11-16     .407  11.5
8.  Clippers    8-19      .296  14.5
9.  Warriors   9-23      .281  16
10. Kings      4-23      .148   18.5

That translates to three relevant teams:  Lakers, Celtics, Suns - and JUNK.

I'd remove wins against the other half if I had time, but lunch calls.

[westkoast]