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*******mind you, I a voted for Obama, but still feel bad for JMc******

Joe the Plumber - A No Show

During my regular morning call to McCain headquarters to see what?s up for the day, an aide told me we would finally see Joe Wurzelbacher ? Joe the Plumber ? appear with John McCain.

McCain?s entire closing theme is based on Wurzelbacher?s curbside encounter with Barack Obama over taxes. But Joe?s never been to a McCain rally.

About halfway through McCain?s first speech in Defiance, Ohio, however, I realized Joe wasn?t there. I called the aide I had spoken with in the morning, who told me that in fact Joe wasn?t going to be there after all.

Unfortunately, no one told the candidate.

As I was hanging up the phone, McCain started to yell for Joe, who he thinks is in the crowd.

?Joe?s with us today. Joe, where are you?? McCain called the into the crowd, ?Where?s Joe? Is Joe here with us today? Joe, I thought you were here today (pause) All right, well, you?re all Joe the plumber, so all of you stand up and say ? I thank you.?

Ooops.

It was an awkward moment.

McCain aides called it a ?miscommunication,? but once I got on the bus I called Wurzelbacher myself and asked him what really happened.

He told me that he had hoped to come to the morning rally, but that no one from McCain?s campaign ever called him back to confirm,

Bigger ooops.

He said he had heard McCain yelled for him and he wasn?t there, and Joe was ?not happy about it.?

It turns out, as soon as camp McCain realized the error, they sent a car for Wurzelbacher and raced him to hook up with McCain?s bus caravan, which was making its way across Ohio.

Shortly after 2pm in a sunny, picturesque town square in Sandusky, Ohio, McCain was speaking to a crowd under a Gazebo and called Joe?s name.

This time, he answered.

He jumped on the stage, and the crowd went wild.

?All right guys, I didn?t prepare anything. The only thing I?ve been saying is just to get out and get informed. I mean really know what you?re talking about when you?re talking about it,? Wurzelbacher bellowed.

?Don?t take everyone?s opinions. I came to my own opinions by research. Get involved in the government. That way we can hold our politicians accountable and take back out government. It?s all ours.?

The only problem is that McCain started to speak before those of us in the press traveling with him got in?
and many of my colleagues in TV and print missed the joe moment.

Afterwards Joe worked the ropeline, shaking hands and signing autographs for voters there to see McCain.

And now Joe is doing something those of use in McCain?s traveling press corps haven?t been allowed to in months.

He?s riding the Straight Talk Express?as we followed behind.

By the next stop in Elyrie, Ohio, camp McCain seemed to have finally worked out the kinks. Joe finally, explicitly endorsed McCain.

?Vote for a real American,? he told the cheering crowd, ?John McCain.?

On the set of Walker Texas Ranger Chuck Norris brought a dying lamb back to life by nuzzling it with his beard. As the onlookers gathered, the lamb sprang to life. Chuck Norris then roundhouse kicked it, killing it instantly. The lesson? The good Chuck giveth, and the good Chuck, he taketh away.

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Did the republicans help joe work out those tax liens against him for avoiding paying his taxes?

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Did the republicans help joe work out those tax liens against him for avoiding paying his taxes?

I don't care about "Joe" the plumber, Like I care about a guy expecting to rake in a quarter Mil getting taxed under Obama's plan.  F'that!  I just think that McCain has become a major laughing stock in the GOP.  Awful IMO.
On the set of Walker Texas Ranger Chuck Norris brought a dying lamb back to life by nuzzling it with his beard. As the onlookers gathered, the lamb sprang to life. Chuck Norris then roundhouse kicked it, killing it instantly. The lesson? The good Chuck giveth, and the good Chuck, he taketh away.

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I don't care about "Joe" the plumber, Like I care about a guy expecting to rake in a quarter Mil getting taxed under Obama's plan.  F'that!  I just think the McCain has become a major laughing stock in the GOP.  Awful IMO.

Oh I don't care about joe either, and sure mccain is a laughing stock, but I thought he became one the moment he made his panic VP pick cause he couldn't get lieberman

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I don't care about "Joe" the plumber, Like I care about a guy expecting to rake in a quarter Mil getting taxed under Obama's plan.  F'that!  I just think the McCain has become a major laughing stock in the GOP.  Awful IMO.

Oh I don't care about joe either, and sure mccain is a laughing stock, but I thought he became one the moment he made his panic VP pick cause he couldn't get lieberman

Yeah, ANYBODY could have been a better pick.  McCain/Burger King would have been a better ticket. I mean the King can be creepy, but he is still cool and people can forgive a guy with a cup of BK Joe in his hands.  j/k.  But seriously ANYBODY could have made a better choice....
On the set of Walker Texas Ranger Chuck Norris brought a dying lamb back to life by nuzzling it with his beard. As the onlookers gathered, the lamb sprang to life. Chuck Norris then roundhouse kicked it, killing it instantly. The lesson? The good Chuck giveth, and the good Chuck, he taketh away.

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See, if he picked the king though, he would have guaranteed his immediate loss in philadelphia (look up howard eskin on images.google.com - the resemblance is uncanny)

I would have been very disappointed if Lieberman had actually said yes to mccain - but then again i lost a lot of respect for joe with his moves to maintain his senate seat.

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See, if he picked the king though, he would have guaranteed his immediate loss in philadelphia (look up howard eskin on images.google.com - the resemblance is uncanny)

I would have been very disappointed if Lieberman had actually said yes to mccain - but then again i lost a lot of respect for joe with his moves to maintain his senate seat.

Does Joe even know what party he belongs to right now?
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I don't know the exact story but didn't he go independent to win his seat back after losing the primary?


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I don't know the exact story but didn't he go independent to win his seat back after losing the primary?



yes, I believe he did.
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I don't know the exact story but didn't he go independent to win his seat back after losing the primary?



Yes.  But then back in the Senate he caucused with the Dems to give them the "majority" (in quotes because 51 votes does not control sheet).  Then he gives a speech at the Repub convention.  Right now I bet no one except Joe has any idea where he stands on anything...and I am not sure even Joe knows that.
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Re: man i feel bad for McCain, VP is an idiot, and staff is not much better...
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2008, 09:23:26 AM »
Well, either he's a wonderful bi-partisan compromiser, or he's a scumbag looking for a bigger payday.

I'm betting on the latter.  Never bet against scumbags in Washington.
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Re: man i feel bad for McCain, VP is an idiot, and staff is not much better...
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2008, 08:39:54 AM »
The joke is that Joe the Plumber was a phoney and a liar.  He wasn't trying to buy a business, he was just trying to mess with Obama.

And, he did a pretty good job of it, since Obama wasn't prepared to deal with the question of why someone who makes $250,000 should be subject to higher taxes.

The reason is simple, someone who makes $250,000 a year is much more able to pay their share of taxes without it limiting their lifestyle than someone who makes less. And if you make that much, you are benefiting that much more from this society than the person who makes less.

No one want's to pay more taxes, but America has no choice.  It is in debt and that debt has to be paid, we all have to pay for the debt, so it's simply a matter of distributing the bill to the people who can actually pay it.  That's why Obama drew the line where he did, based on the numbers.

Some people who make $250,000 are not rich, or at least they don't think they are.  They are upper middle class, not wealthy, but they are still far more able to handle the tax burden then their fellow citizens who make less.

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Re: man i feel bad for McCain, VP is an idiot, and staff is not much better...
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2008, 09:02:12 AM »
Rick, someone who makes TAXABLE income of $250K is in the top 5% of earners.  That is a little more than upper middle class.  Most people confuse Obama's plan by thinking that the $250K is gross income.  But tax rates are applied to NET TAXABLE income.  After deductions and exemptions.
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Re: man i feel bad for McCain, VP is an idiot, and staff is not much better...
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2008, 10:34:42 AM »
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Rick, someone who makes TAXABLE income of $250K is in the top 5% of earners.  That is a little more than upper middle class.  Most people confuse Obama's plan by thinking that the $250K is gross income.  But tax rates are applied to NET TAXABLE income.  After deductions and exemptions.

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Re: man i feel bad for McCain, VP is an idiot, and staff is not much better...
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2008, 10:45:24 AM »
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