The Raiders

[jemagee]

Actually it's simpler

to the majority of the nation/world, oakland and sacramento have very little significance, and certainly not as much as the cities seem to wish they had (which is kind of sad since one is actually the capital of the state but so god awful ugly and hot it's sad)

[JoMal]

Maybe, but at least it is real.

In LA, how do you know you are looking at LA ugly and not a backdrop?

[westkoast]

Maybe, but at least it is real.

In LA, how do you know you are looking at LA ugly and not a backdrop?

Usually when  the stench of a bum hits your nostrils is when you realize he's not in costume.

[JoMal]

Maybe, but at least it is real.

In LA, how do you know you are looking at LA ugly and not a backdrop?

Usually when  the stench of a bum hits your nostrils is when you realize he's not in costume.

Point taken.

But even so, at least we ARE in California. We could be Dallas or some other non-American place.

[WayOutWest]

But even so, at least we ARE in California. We could be Dallas or some other non-American place.

LOL!  I hate THOSE places.