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Offline WayOutWest

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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2008, 11:41:35 AM »
So it's TWO  current or former all-stars?  They can be all-stars at any point in their career and be added to help make a title run?  Again this is why I asked you to be more clear.   Malone and Payton were former all-stars but were not still all-star players.  Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett are still all-star players.  Pretty much what I getting at is the fact that this pretty much has never happened outside of two instances in the history of the NBA.  That is not even considering them having to win the title that same year.

What was the other instance?  I cannot remember if Theus and Malone were all-stars the year they joined the Hawks, I just remember it being big news that they added these guys and were primed to challenge the Celts.  Turned out the Pistons were the team to beat.

That is why I asked the question in the first place, I cannot remember if it ever happened.

What about when the Lakers added Hoarce Grant and Glen Rice for their title run?  Does that count?  They were former all-stars like Malone and Payton.

FYI, Ho and Rice were not on the Lakers at the same time.

The other factor to consider is a guy not making the all-star team despite deserving it because of an oversite of too many all-stars already in the mix already.  How many times has Brand missed the all-star game because the West has been stacked with all-star PF's?

So to make things easier, they must be within one year of an all-star appearance (either current, one year ago or one year from being an all-star) and joining a team the same year they win the title.  More than one all-star of course.  If Boston wins it all this year are they making history?  We can even open it up to all-star caliber (i.e. Baron Davis and Manu being all-star caliber but not making the team).

Fair enough?
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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2008, 12:49:58 PM »
Sixteen posts to get to the answer. No, it never has happened.
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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2008, 01:11:05 PM »
Err, it hasn't happened yet, but I think this time it will.

It worked adding one all-star to complete a team.  Detroit added Rasheed Wallace and won a Championship.  Philadelphia added Moses Malone to a team that had already been to the finals, but couldn't win it, and they won with Moses.

It's simply rare that a team is in a position to go after two All-Star players, so it hasn't been a common occurrence.  Without a large sample, it's hard to answer the question authoritatively, but I would speculate yes.

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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2008, 01:21:03 PM »
^^ Boston added Bob Parish and drafted Kevin McHale to begin the 1980-81 Championship season and begin the irrefutable GOAT teams along with Philly and Malone during '81-'86.  While Bob had already put up Parish type numbers in only his 3rd season with Golden State, 18 pts and 9 boards were not enough to put him into the All Star game.

Billy Walton joined the Celts for 1986s Championship, but his previous All Star years were well before '86.

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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2008, 01:24:26 PM »
Sixteen posts to get to the answer. No, it never has happened.

Can you clarify what you mean when you say, "No, it never has happened."



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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2008, 01:34:32 PM »
^^ Boston added Bob Parish and drafted Kevin McHale to begin the 1980-81 Championship season and begin the irrefutable GOAT teams along with Philly and Malone during '81-'86.  While Bob had already put up Parish type numbers in only his 3rd season with Golden State, 18 pts and 9 boards were not enough to put him into the All Star game.

Billy Walton joined the Celts for 1986s Championship, but his previous All Star years were well before '86.

There we go...and there are others.

As far as having two CURRENT all-stars leave a team in the off-season to go to the same team, that I think has never happened outside of this past year.
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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2008, 01:37:59 PM »
Sixteen posts to get to the answer. No, it never has happened.

Can you clarify what you mean when you say, "No, it never has happened."



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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2008, 01:42:55 PM »

Better yet use bablefish to put it into spanish so our resident hombre can do a better job of communicating his point for a debate.
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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2008, 01:58:44 PM »
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I cannot think of an NBA champ that was assembled and won the title in the same year

Does the Sixers adding MVP Moses and winning the title that year count?  It was also the first year Andrew Toney was a starter (although he was on the team the prior 2 years), and it was Marc Iavoroni's rookie year.

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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2008, 02:15:14 PM »
Sixteen posts to get to the answer. No, it never has happened.

Can you clarify what you mean when you say, "No, it never has happened."



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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2008, 02:20:07 PM »
Sixteen posts to get to the answer. No, it never has happened.

Can you clarify what you mean when you say, "No, it never has happened."



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Yes, please clarify "it" and "happened".  You might confuse the "lil uns".

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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2008, 02:46:09 PM »
Sixteen posts to get to the answer. No, it never has happened.

Can you clarify what you mean when you say, "No, it never has happened."



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Re: Can you slap an NBA All-Star Champion together?
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2008, 02:51:38 PM »
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I cannot think of an NBA champ that was assembled and won the title in the same year

Does the Sixers adding MVP Moses and winning the title that year count?  It was also the first year Andrew Toney was a starter (although he was on the team the prior 2 years), and it was Marc Iavoroni's rookie year.

Nope, looking for multiple all-stars because that implies the team had to come from a ways away to become champs.   The Celts were irrelevent until the aquisitions of KG and Allen.
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