Pats spying on Jets?

[Reality]

Same accusations Packers made a few years ago.
I'm sure the NFL will really look into the Lakers i mean Patriots wrongdoing.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989

[westkoast]

Same accusations Packers made a few years ago.
I'm sure the NFL will really look into the Lakers i mean Patriots wrongdoing.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989

LOL..even when the topic is about football somehow the Lakers pop into your mind.

[Reality]

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has determined that the New England Patriots violated league rules.....
Goodell is considering severe sanctions, including the possibility of docking the Patriots "multiple draft picks" because it is the competitive violation in the wake of a stern warning to all teams since he became commissioner, the sources said. The Patriots have been suspected in previous incidents.

Blah blah blah.  We'll see what actually happens.  (or doesn't)

[westkoast]

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has determined that the New England Patriots violated league rules.....
Goodell is considering severe sanctions, including the possibility of docking the Patriots "multiple draft picks" because it is the competitive violation in the wake of a stern warning to all teams since he became commissioner, the sources said. The Patriots have been suspected in previous incidents.

Blah blah blah.  We'll see what actually happens.  (or doesn't)

Losing draft picks is a little severe don't ya think?

[Reality]

Losing draft picks is a little severe don't ya think?

For cheating via stealing info by camera recording and jacking up other teams radio transmissions thus in all likelyhood winning games you would not have won otherwise? (debateble of course, still there has been many a play where I've gone wow it's like Pats have the other teams playbook).  Slap on the wrist, at least in what was proposed in previous years by Tagliaboo.  We'll see.  To me stealing games should be severe punishment.

I do not blame last years Martys Chargers loss on this tho.

[WayOutWest]

To me stealing games should be severe punishment.

Lucky for the Spurs they don't play in the NFL, otherwise greasing the refs to suspend key payers durring the playoffs would get them in trouble.

[Lurker]

To me stealing games should be severe punishment.

Lucky for the Spurs they don't play in the NFL, otherwise greasing the refs to suspend key payers durring the playoffs would get them in trouble.

The refs didn't suspend the players...the league did.  The Spurs don't fool around greasing gambling addicted refs; they go for the top - Stern & Jackson.

[WayOutWest]

The refs didn't suspend the players...the league did.  The Spurs don't fool around greasing gambling addicted refs; they go for the top - Stern & Jackson.

I think that's a perfect example of why the Lakers have lost their way, since Mr. Logo left they Lakers have stopped thinking big.....     If you're talking ball boy the Lakers have a lock, but when you get into the premier NBA execs the Lakers don't have a clue anymore.

[westkoast]

I am disappointed in both WOW and Lurker....come on guys

And Reality I heard they filmed the other side line but I never heard about them messing up their radio transmissions.  That is going on mission impossible type junk don't you think?  I mean honestly the Pats are not the Raiders to where they need to cheat like that to even come close to winning a game.  Not even the Raiders do that...their fans just threaten the family members of key players on the other team.

[Reality]

To the contrary I'll bet it doesn't take much high level geekery at all to intercept/scramble the radio transmission to and from the QBs helmet.  Especially when the game is played in Pats home stadium.

As to the severe draft pick(s) penalty, Denver was hit with this when they got busted for tampering to acquire John Elway.  We see how much that hurt them.

[Derek Bodner]

The pats are not charged with or suspected intercepting radio transmission.  What has been brought up with the radios is the fact that they had an extra one in use during the games.

[JoMal]

I am disappointed in both WOW and Lurker....come on guys

And Reality I heard they filmed the other side line but I never heard about them messing up their radio transmissions.  That is going on mission impossible type junk don't you think?  I mean honestly the Pats are not the Raiders to where they need to cheat like that to even come close to winning a game.  Not even the Raiders do that...their fans just threaten the family members of key players on the other team.

As Rodney Dangerfield would say about the Raiders, "After they sack the quarterback, they go after their families."

[JoMal]

The Patriots, like the Cowboys, are one of those teams that just seem to have very "tainted" success. Not really earning their wins in conventional, "legal" means, but at times clearly cheating to get by.

The Patriots, remember, benefitted from the "snow-plow" incident, a very "home-field" advantage that gave the Pats kicker a clean surface to kick a game-winning field goal in a snow storm. And any Raider fan worth his jockstrap must remember the famous "tuck" rule that awarded the most tainted playoff victory of all time to New England. The following season, it was absolutely hilarious to watch the refs trying to implement THAT weird ruling in regular season games sensibly. They finally had to give up and now, oddly, we never hear that rule being implemented any longer. 

[westkoast]

The Patriots, like the Cowboys, are one of those teams that just seem to have very "tainted" success. Not really earning their wins in conventional, "legal" means, but at times clearly cheating to get by.

The Patriots, remember, benefitted from the "snow-plow" incident, a very "home-field" advantage that gave the Pats kicker a clean surface to kick a game-winning field goal in a snow storm. And any Raider fan worth his jockstrap must remember the famous "tuck" rule that awarded the most tainted playoff victory of all time to New England. The following season, it was absolutely hilarious to watch the refs trying to implement THAT weird ruling in regular season games sensibly. They finally had to give up and now, oddly, we never hear that rule being implemented any longer. 

I think we will forever be bitter about that....I couldn't imagine where the Pats would be right now if that call went the RIGHT way.

[WayOutWest]

And any Raider fan worth his jockstrap must remember the famous "tuck" rule that awarded the most tainted playoff victory of all time to New England. 

I disagree.  The Steelers superbowl victory was the most tainted win in history, so much so that some news organization conducted a poll about.  Not only was it so obviously tainted that it triggered a poll but the results of the poll clearly showed that the majority of American fans saw the victory as tainted.