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OT: Condy Rice releases Clarke email
« on: March 25, 2004, 11:59:57 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/25/...ttal/index.html

Rice forcefully rebuts Clarke testimony

Releases e-mail she says contradicts his charges

From John King
CNN
Thursday, March 25, 2004 Posted: 4:24 AM EST (0924 GMT)
Rice says Clarke's own words and actions prove false his "scurrilous allegation."

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- National security adviser Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday that administration records -- including former White House counterterrorism official Richard Clarke's own words and actions -- prove false his "scurrilous allegation that somehow the president of the United States was not attentive to the terrorist threat."

Forcefully rebutting Clarke's testimony Wednesday to the 9/11 commission, Rice called reporters to her West Wing office and said that on July 5, 2001 -- two months before the terrorist attacks -- she personally ordered Clarke to alert domestic agencies that they needed to be on alert for the possibility of a terror strike.

Rice said she did so because of a "threat spike" in U.S. intelligence. While the intelligence suggested al Qaeda attacks in the Persian Gulf region or Israel, Rice said she and White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card decided to ask Clarke to take some precautions domestically.

Clarke testified Wednesday that the administration did little in the spring and summer of 2001 to prepare for possible attacks in the United States. To rebut that charge, Rice released unclassified portions of an e-mail Clarke sent to her on September 15, 2001, four days after the attacks.

"When the era of national unity cracks in the near future, it is possible that some will start asking questions like did the White House do a good job of making sure that intelligence about terrorist threats got to FAA and other domestic law enforcement authorities," Clark wrote.

He then went on to detail the steps he said were taken to put the nation on a higher alert footing:

*   In late June, an interagency counterterrorism security group, which Clarke chaired, warned of an upcoming "spectacular" al Qaeda attack that would be "qualitatively different."

*   On July 5, representatives of federal law enforcement agencies were summoned for a meeting at which they were warned "that we thought a spectacular al Qaeda terrorist attack was coming in the near future," Clark wrote. Among the agencies represented were the FBI, Secret Service, Federal Aviation Administration, Customs Service, Coast Guard, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

"We asked that they take special measures to increase security and surveillance," he wrote.

Summarizing his thoughts to Rice, Clarke wrote, "Thus, the White House did insure that domestic law enforcement (including FAA) knew that the [counterterrorism security group] believed that a major al Qaeda attack was coming and it could be in the U.S. ... and did ask that special measures be taken."

Clarke's initials -- "rac" -- are typed at the end of the e-mail.

Rice told reporters she and Card decided to ask Clarke to take domestic precautions even though "all the intelligence pointed to overseas attacks," including the Persian Gulf region, Israel and at the G-8 summit of major industrialized nations that summer in Genoa, Italy.

She said administration officials felt, as a precaution, they could not rule out an attack in the United States, but that if Clarke had any specific information suggesting attacks in the United States, "he never communicated that to anyone."

Rice said she called reporters to her office after Clarke's testimony on Wednesday because "the American people need to have an answer to the scurrilous allegation that somehow the president of the United States was not attentive to the terrorist threat."

Of Clarke's book, Rice said, "That book is 180 degrees from everything else he said, and you just can't have it both ways."

Senior administration officials have offered an array of possibilities when asked why Clarke would present such a scathing portrayal of the president and his top aides.

In an assessment backed by several of Clarke's colleagues in the Clinton administration, he is described by some in the Bush White House as a "my-way-or-the-highway type," who can become irritable and difficult to work with if he does not believe his views are being heeded.

At the same time, officials in both administrations describe Clarke as extremely dedicated and knowledgeable and said he was among the earliest in government to warn of the mounting cybersecurity threat.

Several senior Bush administration officials said he made no secret of his displeasure with an operational change in the Bush White House that gave him far less access to the president than he enjoyed in the Clinton White House.

Clinton preferred his daily intelligence briefing on paper; Bush decided early on to meet almost daily with CIA Director George Tenet and get the briefing in person. Thus, Tenet became the regular conduit of intelligence to the president.

But Rice said her deputies were all told that if they believed they had information that warranted a direct briefing to the president, they should tell her. Clarke asked once, and the briefing he delivered was on cybersecurity, she said.

A senior official also said Rice twice complained directly to Clarke about his rare appearances at her senior staff meetings. In one e-mail, Clarke responded he was "too busy" and that after he missed another meeting Rice responded that he would have a "problem" if he did not start attending.

Rice said Clarke did once mention in an early 2001 memo the possibility of al Qaeda sleeper cells in the United States. But she said he made "no recommendation about what to do about them."

In his testimony, Clarke also referred to information about possible al Qaeda activity in the United States that the Clinton administration learned in thwarting so-called "millennium" plots around January 1, 2000.

Rice said the Clinton administration prepared a detailed "after action" report on its activities, but incoming Bush administration officials were not briefed on its findings during the presidential transition. She also said Clarke did not mention it in a January 25, 2001, memo offering recommendations on dealing with al Qaeda overseas.

Rice said the Bush administration became aware of the report on September 17, 2001 -- nearly a week after the attacks.

Rice also responded angrily to Clarke's characterization in his book, that, when he first briefed Rice on al Qaeda, she appeared to him to be unfamiliar with the terrorist network.

"Arrogance at its extreme," she said of that suggestion. "I'd heard of a few things before I met Dick Clarke."

Rice was a specialist on Soviet affairs in the first Bush administration and continued writing and lecturing on international affairs while at Stanford University during the Clinton presidency.
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2004, 12:08:57 PM »
It is good that the administration is starting to open up on these matters.  That is all I have asked from the beginning.....if there is nothing to hide then present it to the American people & let them decide.  All the double talk & refusals point more towards deception.   Up front conversation in the public eye is the only way to keep our democracy strong.

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2004, 01:25:43 PM »
Thanks Ted.  This is really good news and I am greatly relieved.  Now that the White House has shown the ability and willingness to dig up information from private conversations I'm sure will be seeing the notes from Cheney's secret energy meetings and we'll know who leaked the info on Valerie Plame.  

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2004, 01:28:12 PM »
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Thanks Ted.  This is really good news and I am greatly relieved.  Now that the White House has shown the ability and willingness to dig up information from private conversations I'm sure will be seeing the notes from Cheney's secret energy meetings and we'll know who leaked the info on Valerie Plame.
Baby steps, jn.  Baby steps.   You know you can't rush these things.  Give the administration a while to get used to this new found freedom called openness to the electorate.  Eventually they may feel comfortable enough to spill all the beans.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2004, 01:32:31 PM »
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/25/...ttal/index.html

Rice forcefully rebuts Clarke testimony

Releases e-mail she says contradicts his charges

From John King
CNN
Thursday, March 25, 2004 Posted: 4:24 AM EST (0924 GMT)
Rice says Clarke's own words and actions prove false his "scurrilous allegation."

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- National security adviser Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday that administration records -- including former White House counterterrorism official Richard Clarke's own words and actions -- prove false his "scurrilous allegation that somehow the president of the United States was not attentive to the terrorist threat."

Forcefully rebutting Clarke's testimony Wednesday to the 9/11 commission, Rice called reporters to her West Wing office and said that on July 5, 2001 -- two months before the terrorist attacks -- she personally ordered Clarke to alert domestic agencies that they needed to be on alert for the possibility of a terror strike.

Rice said she did so because of a "threat spike" in U.S. intelligence. While the intelligence suggested al Qaeda attacks in the Persian Gulf region or Israel, Rice said she and White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card decided to ask Clarke to take some precautions domestically.

Clarke testified Wednesday that the administration did little in the spring and summer of 2001 to prepare for possible attacks in the United States. To rebut that charge, Rice released unclassified portions of an e-mail Clarke sent to her on September 15, 2001, four days after the attacks.

"When the era of national unity cracks in the near future, it is possible that some will start asking questions like did the White House do a good job of making sure that intelligence about terrorist threats got to FAA and other domestic law enforcement authorities," Clark wrote.

He then went on to detail the steps he said were taken to put the nation on a higher alert footing:

*   In late June, an interagency counterterrorism security group, which Clarke chaired, warned of an upcoming "spectacular" al Qaeda attack that would be "qualitatively different."

*   On July 5, representatives of federal law enforcement agencies were summoned for a meeting at which they were warned "that we thought a spectacular al Qaeda terrorist attack was coming in the near future," Clark wrote. Among the agencies represented were the FBI, Secret Service, Federal Aviation Administration, Customs Service, Coast Guard, and the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

"We asked that they take special measures to increase security and surveillance," he wrote.

Summarizing his thoughts to Rice, Clarke wrote, "Thus, the White House did insure that domestic law enforcement (including FAA) knew that the [counterterrorism security group] believed that a major al Qaeda attack was coming and it could be in the U.S. ... and did ask that special measures be taken."

Clarke's initials -- "rac" -- are typed at the end of the e-mail.

Rice told reporters she and Card decided to ask Clarke to take domestic precautions even though "all the intelligence pointed to overseas attacks," including the Persian Gulf region, Israel and at the G-8 summit of major industrialized nations that summer in Genoa, Italy.

She said administration officials felt, as a precaution, they could not rule out an attack in the United States, but that if Clarke had any specific information suggesting attacks in the United States, "he never communicated that to anyone."

Rice said she called reporters to her office after Clarke's testimony on Wednesday because "the American people need to have an answer to the scurrilous allegation that somehow the president of the United States was not attentive to the terrorist threat."

Of Clarke's book, Rice said, "That book is 180 degrees from everything else he said, and you just can't have it both ways."

Senior administration officials have offered an array of possibilities when asked why Clarke would present such a scathing portrayal of the president and his top aides.

In an assessment backed by several of Clarke's colleagues in the Clinton administration, he is described by some in the Bush White House as a "my-way-or-the-highway type," who can become irritable and difficult to work with if he does not believe his views are being heeded.

At the same time, officials in both administrations describe Clarke as extremely dedicated and knowledgeable and said he was among the earliest in government to warn of the mounting cybersecurity threat.

Several senior Bush administration officials said he made no secret of his displeasure with an operational change in the Bush White House that gave him far less access to the president than he enjoyed in the Clinton White House.

Clinton preferred his daily intelligence briefing on paper; Bush decided early on to meet almost daily with CIA Director George Tenet and get the briefing in person. Thus, Tenet became the regular conduit of intelligence to the president.

But Rice said her deputies were all told that if they believed they had information that warranted a direct briefing to the president, they should tell her. Clarke asked once, and the briefing he delivered was on cybersecurity, she said.

A senior official also said Rice twice complained directly to Clarke about his rare appearances at her senior staff meetings. In one e-mail, Clarke responded he was "too busy" and that after he missed another meeting Rice responded that he would have a "problem" if he did not start attending.

Rice said Clarke did once mention in an early 2001 memo the possibility of al Qaeda sleeper cells in the United States. But she said he made "no recommendation about what to do about them."

In his testimony, Clarke also referred to information about possible al Qaeda activity in the United States that the Clinton administration learned in thwarting so-called "millennium" plots around January 1, 2000.

Rice said the Clinton administration prepared a detailed "after action" report on its activities, but incoming Bush administration officials were not briefed on its findings during the presidential transition. She also said Clarke did not mention it in a January 25, 2001, memo offering recommendations on dealing with al Qaeda overseas.

Rice said the Bush administration became aware of the report on September 17, 2001 -- nearly a week after the attacks.

Rice also responded angrily to Clarke's characterization in his book, that, when he first briefed Rice on al Qaeda, she appeared to him to be unfamiliar with the terrorist network.

"Arrogance at its extreme," she said of that suggestion. "I'd heard of a few things before I met Dick Clarke."

Rice was a specialist on Soviet affairs in the first Bush administration and continued writing and lecturing on international affairs while at Stanford University during the Clinton presidency.
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What, you still can't believe anything that the Bush administration releases, Ted, even if it's the truth.  Your naivety surprises me, Ted.  The fact that this guy stayed in the office long after the atrocious wrongs committed by this administration and the fact that he launches his book right as the presidential race heats up means nothing.  Just like many other reporters (and writers) have been proven recently -- they never lie -- the Bush administration are just a bunch of liars and cheats.  The fact is that we can only believe anything they say (and anything in their favor) or do after all doubt has been removed.

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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2004, 01:41:44 PM »
You're finally talking sense Randy.  :D    

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You're finally talking sense Randy.  :D
You are right, jn, in fact, Bush in the whole reason the Vikings didn't win the Superbowl last year.  It was a direct result of the Homeland Security Act.  :rolleyes:  

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2004, 01:51:41 PM »
Close Randy.  That was actually Bush family payback.  The Bush family is well known for long memories when it comes to family enemies. I think Bush punished our state for this humiliating exchange many years ago.

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2004, 01:53:36 PM »
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Close Randy.  That was actually Bush family payback.  The Bush family is well known for long memories when it comes to family enemies. I think Bush punished our state for this humiliating exchange many years ago.

"George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize. --Walter Mondale

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Actually, the reason that Mondale chose running mate Ferraro was because she had more balls than he did.  Wanted someone to make him look "tough."  Kind of like Robert Dole looking personal.

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2004, 02:20:49 PM »
Now you've gone too far!!!   :lol:

I loved Bob Dole's crankiness and dark wit.  It's really too bad that his strengths are not what voters want in a president.  I liked the suggestion that he should have run under the slogan "Bob Dole. A Dark Man for Dark Times."  

And say what you will about Walter's politics, he is a genuinely good human being.  I used to see him walking around downtown Mpls by himself so I just went up and introduced myself and said thanks for continuing to speak about the need for clean politics.  He said "Well thanks for caring."  

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2004, 03:40:03 PM »
[size=8]Read below, I don't buy Rice's Bullsh**. If she hammers away so much, WHY WON"T SHE FREAGIN TESTIFY???[/size]WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The daughter of a woman killed in the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center urged national security adviser Condoleezza Rice on Thursday to reconsider her refusal to testify publicly before the independent commission investigating 9/11.

"The American public deserves to see in public under oath what she knew ahead of time," said Carrie Lemack, vice president of the Families of September 11 group.

"Anyone who has information about the attacks should do this. It's not a Republican versus Democrat issue. It's about safety."

Rice has spent several hours with the commission in private, but she has maintained that a member of the president's staff can't appear before a congressionally chartered commission without violating the Constitution's separation of powers.

In recent days, she has been one of the leading White House officials blasting away at allegations by former White House counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke that the Bush administration failed to take seriously the looming threat of a terrorist attack. (Rice rebuts Clarke's 'scurrilous allegation'; Clarke's assertions)

"I've heard Dr. Rice say that she has evidence that what he said was wrong," said Lemack, whose mother, Judy Larocque, was a flight attendant on one of the planes that hit the trade center.

"I implore her to come forward and speak in front of the commission and American public -- under oath, in public -- and let us know what that evidence is."
 
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2004, 05:16:57 PM »
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[size=8]Read below, I don't buy Rice's Bullsh**. If she hammers away so much, WHY WON"T SHE FREAGIN TESTIFY???[/size]WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The daughter of a woman killed in the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center urged national security adviser Condoleezza Rice on Thursday to reconsider her refusal to testify publicly before the independent commission investigating 9/11.

"The American public deserves to see in public under oath what she knew ahead of time," said Carrie Lemack, vice president of the Families of September 11 group.

"Anyone who has information about the attacks should do this. It's not a Republican versus Democrat issue. It's about safety."

Rice has spent several hours with the commission in private, but she has maintained that a member of the president's staff can't appear before a congressionally chartered commission without violating the Constitution's separation of powers.

In recent days, she has been one of the leading White House officials blasting away at allegations by former White House counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke that the Bush administration failed to take seriously the looming threat of a terrorist attack. (Rice rebuts Clarke's 'scurrilous allegation'; Clarke's assertions)

"I've heard Dr. Rice say that she has evidence that what he said was wrong," said Lemack, whose mother, Judy Larocque, was a flight attendant on one of the planes that hit the trade center.

"I implore her to come forward and speak in front of the commission and American public -- under oath, in public -- and let us know what that evidence is."
the answer to your stupid question is in what you just posted!  you post every damn thing coming out of the anit- bush side DAILY, and ted posts something that is national news and "you dont buy it"?  partisanship.....
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2004, 06:56:09 PM »
Condy is a freagin SELLOUT, don't YOU WATCH CHAPPELLE???  Remember, they TRADED HER ARSE!!!
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2004, 08:54:39 PM »
I think Americans have every right to question why Condoleeza Rice did not show up to testify before the Commission and instead sent her deputy? It smacks of arrogance and an unwillingness to be held accountable for the actions of this administration. The same can be said of Bush and Cheyney's unwillingness to testify publicly before the commission.  

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2004, 04:43:28 PM »
The only thing Rice hasn't done is meet with the commission in public with the cameras on. She's already had one four-hour meeting with the commission, and is requesting another. As I understand it, she was under oath during her four-hour meeting with the commission. I may be mistaken , but I believe that is what I read.

As far as not appearing in public, it's called executive privelege, part of the statutes created to protect and strengthen the separation of powers. Every president invokes executive privelege, Clinton did it in all of his investigations, Bush is doing it now. It doesn't protect cabinet officials, but since Dr. Rice is a member of the White House staff, she falls under the statute. I didn't have a problem when Clinton's staff didn't testify in public (eventually they had to thanks to the budgetary black hole known as Ken Starr's criminal investigation), and I don't have a problem with Rice not testifying in public. As long as the commission gets what it needs in private, that's fine with me.
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