both.
With Jesus, the Jewish religious leaders had been schemeing to have him put to death for years. It was not just because of the temple blood money extortion sales they wanted to continue.
Most of the stuff I got from historians of the day, I'll have to dig up their names from my Jewy buds.
Do a little digging and you'll come to the same conclusion regarding Jesus.
:rolleyes: Your Jewy buds have a version of what happened. Wonder if that will be a Jew favorable version? Could you ask them what role the Jewish leaders had in Jesus death?
No need for me to dig further. I've dug. Much more then Wikopedia.com B) Randy.
If you were paying attention you'd see what light the Jews were in, not a favorable one, common greed.
Where does the old CHRISTIAN testiment come from? :rolleyes:
LOL @ Wikopedia.com, grade school level of info.