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Offline JoMal

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2005, 03:11:52 PM »
"IF" this turns out to be true, the Kings will come close to the offensive production they had in Webber's peak years here. SAR's passing does not have to be at C-Webb's level, as the ideal for Adelman is to have Miller the set up post player anyway, as he did when Webber was injured and the Kings' offense took off with that move, using Divac. Miller is close to Vlade's passing ability or it would not work.

The odd man out would be Thomas, who can't be happy with this potential signing. With his contract, the Kings are also not likely to like it much either, having a player with nearly $37 million left on his extended contract sitting on the bench.

Since the Trailblazers do not want to take back any salary, a sign and trade is not going to occur, so Petrie will be still tinkering with this roster for another month yet.  
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2005, 03:23:51 PM »
Joe,

No problem -- I still hear about that as well (my son just went on and on about that trade) -- however, Rip was hardly every playing in my line-up and my center position was going empty at times.  And I couldn't manage to pull a trade for a big man!  It was a trade based out of frustration!!!  And honestly, I don't think I did any more poorly after the trade than I was doing before the trade!
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2005, 03:33:55 PM »
I don't think Thomas has to be the odd man out, he can be the main sixth man, now that Bobby is gone.  He's shown that he's an able producer with limited 25-30 minutes.  I think he can be Shareef's main backup and then Sacto can decide to go big when Peja needs a breather:

1 - Bibby
2 - Bonzi
3 - Rahim
4 - Thomas
5 - Miller

I'll tell ya I've like how the Kings have handled the off-season knowing they'd lose Mobley.  Since acting seemed to be more important to the "Cat" than basketball. :rolleyes:    
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2005, 04:56:25 PM »
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I don't think Thomas has to be the odd man out, he can be the main sixth man, now that Bobby is gone.  He's shown that he's an able producer with limited 25-30 minutes.  I think he can be Shareef's main backup and then Sacto can decide to go big when Peja needs a breather:

1 - Bibby
2 - Bonzi
3 - Rahim
4 - Thomas
5 - Miller

I'll tell ya I've like how the Kings have handled the off-season knowing they'd lose Mobley.  Since acting seemed to be more important to the "Cat" than basketball. :rolleyes:
The remake of SHAFT, starting Cutino Mobley!! :D

All three of the ex-Sixers the Kings got in the Webber trade are adding strength to the bench, then we also got Hart from the Bobcats to back up Bibby, and we signed Ronnie Price to back HIM up. (and no other signing has got me more interested - I want to see this kid and if he really has got 'game').

We still have a possibility regarding bring Darius Songaila back too. If we don't pick him up, some team out there is going to get a heck of a backup power forward.

The Kings all of a sudden are looking very deep.  
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2005, 09:09:21 PM »
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(Sorry, Randy.  This is just something to rattle Skander's cage.  He *STILL* goes on and on about that trade.)
Don't remind us Joe.

I don't see SAR as a 3, just seems really out of place for him at this point in his career.  But if Horry can play the 3 I guess SAR can as well.
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2005, 10:12:11 PM »
Considering how deep Sactown is at the forward position, it really doesn't make sense for them to be going after SAR.

If they do sign him they'll have to let go of at least one of them.  It's not going to be Peja, for sure, so that leaves Thomas, Skinner, Williamson, Daniels and Songaila along with Sampson.

That's 7 forwards on the roster, not including SAR.  Portland doesn't want a salary back, so the Kings are going to have to let one or two of these forwards go to get him.  

Is SAR worth it?  Is he really that much better than Thomas?  They're very simillar players, so it's hard to imagine them keeping Thomas.  Skinner is a bigger more physical player and so is Corliss.  

Seems more like Petrie is playing games unless he has something else going on.
 
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2005, 10:39:58 PM »
Songaila is a FA at this point and Sampson is a backup center -- not PF.  And SAR is that much better than Thomas -- Thomas doesn't demand that much attention -- in fact, he gets many of his points because he tends to get forgotten.  SAR is a legit scorer -- that isn't going to be said of Thomas, ever!  Thomas is perhaps a better rebounder -- but not by much.  I like Skinner but you don't need Skinner and Songaila, IMO.  And you don't need Thomas and SAR either but I don't see them getting rid of Thomas with his contract.  

SAR would be a great pick-up for the Kings:
  PG - Bibby
  SG - Bonzi
  SF - Peja
  PF - SAR
  C  - BMiller

I am somewhat skeptical of the strength of the Kings backcourt bench -- they have a lot of depth in the frontcourt (although I'm not sure I would say it's like the bench of old) but the seem to have traded away their best backcourt bench players.
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2005, 10:50:20 AM »
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Songaila is a FA at this point and Sampson is a backup center -- not PF.  And SAR is that much better than Thomas -- Thomas doesn't demand that much attention -- in fact, he gets many of his points because he tends to get forgotten.  SAR is a legit scorer -- that isn't going to be said of Thomas, ever!  Thomas is perhaps a better rebounder -- but not by much.  I like Skinner but you don't need Skinner and Songaila, IMO.  And you don't need Thomas and SAR either but I don't see them getting rid of Thomas with his contract.  

SAR would be a great pick-up for the Kings:
  PG - Bibby
  SG - Bonzi
  SF - Peja
  PF - SAR
  C  - BMiller

I am somewhat skeptical of the strength of the Kings backcourt bench -- they have a lot of depth in the frontcourt (although I'm not sure I would say it's like the bench of old) but the seem to have traded away their best backcourt bench players.
Randy, that is currently the 'unproven' part of the Kings. They have drafted two SG kids the last two drafts in Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia, both underweight for the NBA. Martin, from the brief glimpse I had of him in the summer league, has been hitting the gym, so he is bigger then he was as a rookie. Garcia, who was a scorer in college, found the summer league a bit of a challenge in that department. But these are our backup shooting guards.

At point, things get a bit more interesing. Jason Hart was traded for from the Bobcats, where he was functional, though not a great shooter or floor leader, but he can play good defense.

Ronnie Price, as I have stated, is an undrafted free agent rookie PG from a small Utah I-A college.  From what I have heard, his small college status turned the NBA scouts off and so he was ignored in the draft. Petrie called him up during the second round and told him if he goes undrafted, he would sign him to the Kings roster, which is exactly what he did. He gave a roster spot to this kid after two games of summer league play (he got hurt). Price has an NBA body, at 6-2 and 190, though he could use some muscle like Garcia and Martin. But the main thing about him is that everyone says he plays with heart and while unproven in college because of his small school, he has the potential that could turn this into Petrie's best move of the summer.

Keep an eye on this kid.    
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2005, 07:02:27 PM »
The Kings signed SAR to the mid-level exception Friday afternoon - a one year deal, but that could change next year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-k...ov=ap&type=lgns
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2005, 07:11:20 PM »
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The Kings signed SAR to the mid-level exception Friday afternoon - a one year deal, but that could change next year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-k...ov=ap&type=lgns
In the "water under the bridge dept" I wonder what SARs other top choice was?

Other teams he visited also.

"While Abdur-Rahim visited his list of potential new teams in recent weeks, he said the Kings were among his top two choices. His wife is from the San Francisco Bay area, about 90 miles west, and he played one collegiate season at California."
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2005, 10:44:04 AM »
They never bothered to say what the other teams were that they had been talking to.

I also was wrong about his contract. This is kind of hard to believe, but the Kings signed Abdul-Rahim to a five year deal for $29 million. He had an offer for $47 million from the Bucks, and his Nets deal was for something like $38 million over six years, which they said they would not pay because of his knee, but were interested in just lowering the contract instead to acquire him, but SAR and his agent said no.

In today's NBA, that has to be a first for a player in his prime, as Shareef is just 28.
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