Eagles and T.O.

[Reality]

Do you want him on your 2005 Eagles?  

Not many teams out there with cap space to take him in a trade.  There was some talk of trading him for that Packer holdout, but then do you want that Packer holdout? B)

Also some noise about ATL, but i think cap is a deal killer.

Moot point, Philly is not going to absorb the lux tax hit by trading him.  He will be an Eagle or he can sit it out.

But do you want him in 2005.

Seems he is always a rabblerouser/backstabber but he does catch passes.

[Derek Bodner]

He just announced yesterday that he'll be at camp.
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/sports/rss/nfl/SIG=...ov=ap&type=lgns

[Reality]

He just announced yesterday that he'll be at camp.
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/sports/rss/nfl/SIG=...ov=ap&type=lgns

dabods I know that, I'm saying do you want him.  As he did with Garcia in 49erville now he is trying to get under McNabbs skin.

You've got him, Philly will make the best of it.  Cap makes him virtually untradeable.  You've got him.  I'm asking do you want him?

KC Chiefs took Freddy Mitchell. :crazy:  :crazy:   As a 2nd choice after another reciever fell thru.  What were they thinking?  With Dick Vermeils kick ass offense I was hoping some FA or tradeable good reciever might have loved coming to KC.

[Derek Bodner]

Outside of one comment, he hasn't gotten under McNabb's skin.

And McNabb has a much tougher skin that Garcia.  McNabb is a respected leader, a perennial pro-bowler, with enough clout that he could have TO waived tomorrow if he wanted to.

And of course we want him here.  It'll all be forgotten in week 8 when we're 7-1 (at the least) and TO has 10 td's.

[SPURSX3]

Screw TO, let him sit, if the NFL allows this fool to demand a contract renewal like this everyone will do it (ie.  refuse to play like NBA players are doing.)  Let him sit. if he refuses to play, fine him heavily.

[rickortreat]

Yes I want him playing for the Eagles.  I don't care that he's an immature child who wants to break a contract that he signed.  I don't care if he cries and moans about it, since the truth is he has no one to blame but himself.

As long as he works hard on the field and catches passes,  everything else is just entertainment.  Never a boring moment with the Philadelphia Eagles!

I'm more worried about Westbrook holding out.  He wants serious money and the Eagles don't seem to be willing to pay him at the level he thinks he deserves.  He's critical to the Eagles offensive success, even if we do get Correl Buckhalter back and healthy.

Corey Simon is also holding out, and hasn't signed the Eagles offer.  

[Reality]

Yes I want him playing for the Eagles.  I don't care that he's an immature child who wants to break a contract that he signed.  I don't care if he cries and moans about it, since the truth is he has no one to blame but himself.

As long as he works hard on the field and catches passes,  everything else is just entertainment.  Never a boring moment with the Philadelphia Eagles!

 

You guys still thinking when the Eagles are 7-1 and T.O. has 8 t.d.s it's all good?

I see how 7-1 with 8 can still all happen.

But isn't this suspension a bit even by Eagle/T.O. drama standards?

Westbrook is in so no worrys about he and 2005.

[rickortreat]

Ah, the drama never ends!  Reid threw TO out of camp yesterday, and now all the Eagles faithfull and sportswriters want him gone.

They're all idiots.  As long as TO plays on the field up to his potential, he can still help the Eagles get where they want to go.

He can't afford to sabotage the Eagles, or no other team will pick him up.  If he wants to get back to the Supe and to win, he needs to stay as an Eagle.

Besides which, he's got a pulled hamstring, and needs some time to heal.

He is an ass, but the Eagles didn't sign him for his personality.  They signed him to make catches, the one thing he does well.

 

[Skandery]

I think the guy as permanently afixed "CANCER" in big block letters to his whole being.  I'm not sure any viable contender would want TO even if the Eagles were to drop him.  
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Now to veer off-topic just a bit, I in no way, shape, or form blame Hines Ward for his holdout.  He is due 1.6 million this, the last year of his contract.  Last year he asked for an extension and threatened to hold out.  The Steelers promised him an extension to get him into camp, and he went on to help them go 15 and 1.  This is a premier receiver in the league, he's a leader, plays with heart, and is loyal.  How has management repayed his loyalty, they renegged on the promise and haven't made any effort to offer him an extension this off-season.  The Steelers have been known to let players sit the season out, what a shame that would be for a class guy like Hines Ward.          

[Joe Vancil]

Got to chime in on Owens.

WTF, Terrell?  Didn't you *JUST* sign this contract?  Wasn't the past off-season's fiasco your free agency, where you essentially screwed over the 49ers and the Ravens, all so you could sign with the Eagles.

Take the money you whined to get last year, get on the field for the team you whined your way onto, play the game, and shut the f--- up.

Nothing ticks me off as much as when a guy with all the talent in the world acts like he's entitled to anything he wants just because he wants it.  In my mind, he's the best receiver in the league.  But - be honest - don't you think it's a little silly for him to be whining THIS SEASON about the contract he signed JUST LAST SEASON?  You were a free agent, Terrell!  If you didn't like the contract, WHY'D YOU SIGN IT?  

Freakin' moron.


 

[rickortreat]

You are SOOO Right Joe.

TO was all over the news today, he called McNabb a hypocrite, made all kinds of noise about he was being treated unfairly (Even though the contract is his own fault!) and then took off for the Carribean to get a tan.

This situation is becoming really stupid.  TO and his agent, should realize that these antics aren't helping TO's image around the league.

The Eagles have said no one has even called about TO's availablity.  Considering he's one of the best, if not the best reciever in the league, the only reason no one's calling is because they KNOW he's a cancer.

He whines and moans about his situation, but he is the source of all his troubles.  His ego, his lack of accountablility to himself is emblematic of the very worst in professional athletes.  He burned his bridges in San Francisco, and seems to be working hard to do the same thing here in Philly.  A great athlete but a pathetic excuse for a human being.

 

[Reality]

The Eagles have said no one has even called about TO's availablity.  Considering he's one of the best, if not the best reciever in the league, the only reason no one's calling is because they KNOW he's a cancer.

He whines and moans about his situation, but he is the source of all his troubles.  His ego, his lack of accountablility to himself is emblematic of the very worst in professional athletes.  He burned his bridges in San Francisco, and seems to be working hard to do the same thing here in Philly.  A great athlete but a pathetic excuse for a human being.

Sorry to say i think some other teams owners/GMs would call in a heartbeat if they thought Philly would let him go.  He catches passes.  Since when do any pro teams care about character?  Rodman/Bulls.

His whole present antics are an attempt to get Philly to trade him to a team he hopes will pay beyond his present contract, no?

[rickortreat]

You require reading comprehension training.

The Eagles management said that no-one has contacted them about TO.  With all the antics going on, one would think that if anyone was interested, they would have contacted the team.

That no other team has contacted the Eagles is telling, wouldn't you say?

[Reality]

That no other team has contacted the Eagles is telling, wouldn't you say?

"Sorry to say i think some other teams owners/GMs would call in a heartbeat if they thought Philly would let him go. He catches passes. Since when do any pro teams care about character? Rodman/Bulls."

Comprehend?

However this does seem like high drama even by pampered pro sports standards.

I still think if Philly would let him go for cheap some other team would pick him up.
I think his antics are less of an obstacle to some other teams then his obvious intent to jack up his salary.

Maybe you are right and his ultra lame behavior is turning all other teams GMs off.
Shocker if true.

All rather moot.  I think it will be as dabods said.
It'll all be forgotten in week 8 when Eagles are 6-2 (at the least) and TO has 6 td's.

 

[rickortreat]

Now you're being STUPID!

How would a team know if the Eagles are willing to deal if they DON'T call?

As though the Eagles would tip their hand by letting TO know that they're open to trading him!

One thing I have to say about the Eagles is that they are very tough negotiators and are willing to loose players that they cannot come to an agreement with.  TO on the other hand is a player they have under contract.  He has to play or the Eagles don't have to pay him.  They will not trade him unless someone gives them replacement value.  As a player who's in the latter part of his carreer TO is pretty much stuck.  Rosenhaus should have known this comming in. You can't force the renegotiation of a deal without leverage.