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« on: November 15, 2004, 12:39:43 PM »
or B.)  bench players who helped advance to finals.or
B2)  bench players who had signifigant playoff contributions.

However, i dont mean 6th men, i mean 10 11 or even 12th bench crustoids who ended up playing in the playoffs.  

Point is, I do not agree with NBA culture mentality that 10th 11th and 12th men on the bench are simply crustoid fodder to sit like statues.  I'm guessing if we put our collective memories together we can come up with some 10-11-12 bench players who ended up impacting a finals or playoffs.  
Ok just because i cant think of anyone right now. :rolleyes:  

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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2004, 12:51:39 PM »
Raja Bell.

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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2004, 02:11:01 PM »
Tyronn Lue (Lakers)
Randy Brown (Bulls)
Brian Williams (Bison Dele) (Bulls)
Jason Caffey (Bulls)
Jaren Jackson (Spurs)

or, for the losing sides:

Chris Morris (Jazz)


 
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2004, 02:33:05 PM »
Greg Kite Celtics.  One year one series he was fantastic.

Good ones Joe.  Also notable that 4 of the 6 you mentioned played under Phil Jackson-Tex Winters.
Raja Bell looks well on his way to another playoff good contribution.

I just dont buy that a winded starter is sooo much better then a completely fresh bench player.  Proof is as the players we are posting.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2004, 02:41:30 PM »
Steve Kerr in SA...he was pretty deep in the lineup.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2004, 02:44:50 PM »
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Steve Kerr in SA...he was pretty deep in the lineup.
I don't think he was 10 11 or 12, but he definitely qualifies.   Maybe he was 10 come to think of it.
 
Pop-a-Cement would not have played him (was not playing him) were it not for foul trouble.  He bailed them out vs Dallas no doubt.  In title year.

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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2004, 04:57:15 PM »
I don't think you can count Kerr -- he helped the Bulls win titles with his sharpshooting.

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2004, 05:16:12 PM »
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I don't think you can count Kerr -- he helped the Bulls win titles with his sharpshooting.
Ya but he was at the end of the bench with SA and def made a HUGE difference.  Might not have got to the finals without his shooting.

Reality, I could have sworn he was like one of the last 2 guys on the bench.  Pop didnt even put him up until that time if my memory serves me.  Great thread btw, im at work trying to think of those guys who went unnoticed.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2004, 07:41:22 PM »
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Ya but he was at the end of the bench with SA and def made a HUGE difference.  Might not have got to the finals without his shooting.

Reality, I could have sworn he was like one of the last 2 guys on the bench.  Pop didnt even put him up until that time if my memory serves me.  Great thread btw, im at work trying to think of those guys who went unnoticed.
ESPN.com has inexplicably deleted his 2003 playoff stats.

Absolutely you are correct that he was very late off the bench.  I believe Pop a Cement did not even play him in the Dallas series until the Spurs were down 2-1 and about to be down 3-1, putting Kerr in very late.  4 3ptrs and also great entry passes to Tim Duncan, which the other Spurs guards at the time could not do.

Here is an article alluding to Kerrs playing time, Pop and the playoffs including the finals.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2003/story?id=1567938

Yes i would say for the 2003 playoffs he was 10th off the bench.
Call me crazy but I thought he was the biggest Spurs loss after the '03 season.
Against the Lakers in '04 playoffs Kerr was again exactly what they needed.
Of course it's a "what if" and the Lakers would have countered, my point is given Kerrs history....
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2004, 10:33:00 AM »
Pacers have gone 3-2 so far with Britton Johnsen, Tremaine Fowlkes, and Eddie Gill getting some minutes.  One win over TWolves.

Point is the theory that they suck so bad as far bench 10,11,12 people and therefore should get zero minutes just doesn't wash.      

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2004, 10:37:28 AM »
Britton Johnson is an exceptionally hard worker.  I'm glad to see this guy getting some time.  He played some really smart ball the other night in the game against the Timberwolves.
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Re: Bench players winning Title
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2010, 09:24:01 AM »
Nate Robinson of the Celtics.
For Gm 4 anyways.

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Re: Bench players winning Title
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2010, 09:43:19 AM »
Nate Robinson of the Celtics.
For Gm 4 anyways.

Going back a ways - M.L. Carr with a big steal for Boston years back.

The bench-guy for Boston who came up with big buckets against Phoenix in the final overtime in Game 5 of the 1976 Boston/Phoenix finals.  Don't remember his name, but a big deal was made of it.
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