NBA's Most improved Player

[ziggy]

CAst your vote and offer your opinion?

[SPURSX3]

the most likely player i would say is most improved is not even being considered.....stephen jackson.  brotha man is scoring like a star since rahim left, Jax is tha man in the big ATL right now...

[WayOutWest]

I'm going with Big Los (pronounced "low-ze").

Boozer has been a steady and solid contributor all year.  AK-47 hasn't IMPROVED much since he was already a very good player.

I'd throw Brad Millers name in the mix as well.

[westkoast]

I'm going with Big Los (pronounced "low-ze").

Boozer has been a steady and solid contributor all year.  AK-47 hasn't IMPROVED much since he was already a very good player.

I'd throw Brad Millers name in the mix as well.

Ya where is the option to vote for B-Miller?

[JoMal]

You know, sometimes signing a big contract with a new team doesn't show immediate benefits, and his bouncing from three other teams never bodes well, but I have to agree that the season Brad put together up to the All Star game is worthy of consideration, at least.

From your list, I would vote for Randolph, and then Boozer.

[WayOutWest]

You know, sometimes signing a big contract with a new team doesn't show immediate benefits, and his bouncing from three other teams never bodes well, but I have to agree that the season Brad put together up to the All Star game is worthy of consideration, at least.

From your list, I would vote for Randolph, and then Boozer.

I'd vote B-Rad if he was on the list.

Who the frog appointed ziggy "list master"?    

[ziggy]

With regards to Brad Miller, look at his numbers last 3 years

2001-02  56% FG, 82% FT, 15.1 PPG, 7.9 PPG, 1.8 APG

2002-03  49.3% FG, 82% FT, 13.1 PPG, 8.3 RPG, 2.8 APG

2003-04  51.3% FG, 77.5% FT, 14.3 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 4.3 APG

In other words Miller has been a good to very good player for 3 years.  He raised his game some this year, yes, but he was a very good player during his time in Indiana.  He also just signed a big money FA contract, so obviously he was already considered a good quality NBA player.  He imporved some on his career numbers, but not as much as the other players.

Compare his improvement to that of Zach Randolph who went from 8.4 and 4.5 to 20.1 and 10.4.

Compare his improvement to Carlos Boozer who was a second round pick 2 years ago, and was 10.0 and 7.5 last year and 15.5, and 11.5 this year.

Compare his improvement to Andre Kirilenko who went from
12.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.7 ast, 1.5 stl, and 2.2 bpg last year to
16.5 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 3.1 ast, 2.0 stl, and 2.8 bpg this year, icluding 2 5 x 5 games.

This is about MOST IMPROVED and all 3 of these guys improved more than Miller.

[Lurker]

But how much of that improvement in those 3 players is just extended minutes compared to the previous year?

Randolph & AK47 definately fall into this category.  It isn't that their games improved as much as they got more playing time.  To a certain extent that is true with Boozer also.

Miller doesn't really deserve mention in this discussion.  His game (except possibly passing) hasn't improved.  He is just on a team that generates more shot attempts and more rebounds than almost any other team.  

Hell, if Miller deserves consideration then Rasho deserves it also.   Rasho's numbers for rebounds, blocks, assists, and steals are all significantly higher than his career averages.  And except for assists are all higher than any numbers he posted in Minnesota.

BTW my vote goes to LeBron James....his game this year is vastly improved over his game last year.  But since he wasn't on the list I voted for Boozer.

[westkoast]

With regards to Brad Miller, look at his numbers last 3 years

2001-02  56% FG, 82% FT, 15.1 PPG, 7.9 PPG, 1.8 APG

2002-03  49.3% FG, 82% FT, 13.1 PPG, 8.3 RPG, 2.8 APG

2003-04  51.3% FG, 77.5% FT, 14.3 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 4.3 APG

In other words Miller has been a good to very good player for 3 years.  He raised his game some this year, yes, but he was a very good player during his time in Indiana.  He also just signed a big money FA contract, so obviously he was already considered a good quality NBA player.  He imporved some on his career numbers, but not as much as the other players.

Compare his improvement to that of Zach Randolph who went from 8.4 and 4.5 to 20.1 and 10.4.

Compare his improvement to Carlos Boozer who was a second round pick 2 years ago, and was 10.0 and 7.5 last year and 15.5, and 11.5 this year.

Compare his improvement to Andre Kirilenko who went from
12.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.7 ast, 1.5 stl, and 2.2 bpg last year to
16.5 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 3.1 ast, 2.0 stl, and 2.8 bpg this year, icluding 2 5 x 5 games.

This is about MOST IMPROVED and all 3 of these guys improved more than Miller.

The stats do say that he has been a quality player over the past few years.  However he has brought his game to a different level with this Kings team IMO.  He's playing in a harder confrence seeing harder PFs more times a year and he seems much more comfortable on the offensive end.   If he produces in the playoffs with the added pressure and the tougher teams he should be a shoe in.