Chargers bailed out. NFL

[Reality]

Anyone see the play where rookie Vincent Jackson caught the pass for the first down, had to stretch to catch, fell down, did not get touched? 

So Beaviss jumps up, thinks he was touched, thus spins the ball 5 yards forward in self adjulation celebretory style.  As Jackson stands with head up arse, Raiders recover, thus Raiders ball, right?  No.

Some ultra lame NFL rule calls it a 2nd forward pass on the same play, thus its a "pass" and not a fumble.  Chargers get penalized only 5 yards, plus the 5 yards is from the spot of his tossing the ball.  So even with -5, he got enough for the 1st down.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/sullivan/20061127-9999-1s27sullivan.html
I'm sure it will be all over SportsCenter.

Above lead the tying touchdown by Chargers.  Toss in some Oakland dropped passes, Janakowski shanking a 25 yd field goal and it was another Classic Raider moment.  91 yd kickoff return by Chargers was the momentum changer.
Beautiful call by Chargers to do another LT halfback pass.
Oh, who has LT on their fantacy team?

Philly.  You sure can't blame Garcia for this one.  19-23
Michael Vick.  Please get him at least one reciever.
New England.  Back for another AFC title game?
Pittsburg.  Worst Move Ever sitting Charlie Batch and contining to play Rothy.

[Joe Vancil]

Reality said:

     Oh, who has LT on their fantacy team?


     Do you really have to ask?  SKANDER DOES.

     If either 1) somebody is having an incredible year and was taken in a late round, or 2) is named Mike Dunleavy, Skander's probably got them.

[JoMal]

Being a Raider fan, I am use to calls like that one screwing Oakland. It is a weekly thing that you just come to expect to happen. For example, how many "Tuck" rulings have you seen on quarterback fumbles this year?

The NFL clearly has it in for Al Davis and it shows up most often in rulings on the field, none of which that matter ever in favor of Oakland.

Now, Oakland as a franchise is pretty much a joke this season, but the fan's vitriol is entirely against the offense, and in my opinion, should be narrowed down to about 80% directed at the coaches and 20% against the players. The offensive players are clearly losing faith in the system, as Randy Moss verbalized in so much language in the interview that now has him with a bullseye on his back in the Raider lockerroom. But others, like Lamont Jordan, Jerry Porter, Aaron Brooks, and Warren Sapp have all mentioned problems with how things are being decided with this team.

Against San Diego, once the Raiders 'amassed' a HUGE second half lead of seven points (14-7), they stopped playing or doing any serious playcalling. It appeared that the offensive "intelligencia" that runs the playcalling decided in the third quarter that the defense should play most of the rest of the game, and to get the Raider offense off the field as fast as humanly possible. After all, the other team would give up, right? I mean, with such an insurmountable lead as seven (7) points, what NFL team would try to come back in the third and fourth quarters?? So we got to see little hesitation runs that gained all of nothing yardage and then a punt.

Somehow, this strategy energized the dormant Charger offense, they got that bogus call on that fumble, and when the Raider offense suddenly had to go back to work, the player's mindset was already off the original gameplan too far to go back to it.

This offensive brilliance, displayed weekly by the Raider offensive coaches, should galvinize the defensive coaches to murder.    

[Reality]

Jomal,

Actually the ref got it right by rulebook (link above).  Or do you mean since vs Raider the selective enforcement was used? 
That one needs to be rewritten.  Imagine in a blowout if a reciever, oh say T.O. types decided to hork the ball into the stands from midfield after a 30 yard gain.  He could do it, only 5 yards from the spot of hork.

Back to select enforce.  Raider liker at game i was at was reminicing how good a stretch the Raiders could have had be it not for the bogile New England call and following year(s) of MO-RON Al Davis not running Chucky Gruber to Tampas waiting arms.
Could they have had a back to back or 2 of 3 Bowl appearance?

Aaron Brooks scrambling was great.  That guy can manuever.  Moss looked very uninspired.   They did try to throw it his way a fair amount.

[Skandery]

If either 1) somebody is having an incredible year and was taken in a late round, or 2) is named Mike Dunleavy, Skander's probably got them.

Now, now...I did use my FIRST round, FIRST pick on LaDainian Tomlinson.  Now, of course, every fantasy expert in the country would've taken LT third behind Larry Johnson and Shaun Alexander.  I'm so glad I'm NOT a fantasy expert!!

[JoMal]

Jomal,

Actually the ref got it right by rulebook (link above).  Or do you mean since vs Raider the selective enforcement was used? 
That one needs to be rewritten.  Imagine in a blowout if a reciever, oh say T.O. types decided to hork the ball into the stands from midfield after a 30 yard gain.  He could do it, only 5 yards from the spot of hork.

Back to select enforce.  Raider liker at game i was at was reminicing how good a stretch the Raiders could have had be it not for the bogile New England call and following year(s) of MO-RON Al Davis not running Chucky Gruber to Tampas waiting arms.
Could they have had a back to back or 2 of 3 Bowl appearance?

Aaron Brooks scrambling was great.  That guy can manuever.  Moss looked very uninspired.   They did try to throw it his way a fair amount.

From SacTown Bee today:

"Raiders players said what Jackson did was no different from what then-Pittsburg wide receiver Plaxico Burress did when he spiked the ball on a similar play during the 2000 season and was ruled to have fumbled."

Further, if Jackson had been facing the opposite way and had spun the ball behind him, Carey would have given the ball to the Raiders.

Huh?

Was Jackson actually attemping a forward pass on that play? A lateral? Even spiking the ball? If a guy is running down field, no one near him, but he clips his thigh with the ball (who has not seen this happen???) and fumbles the ball - FORWARD - how often has that been called a forward pass instead of a fumble?

Or do you mean since vs Raider the selective enforcement was used?

The "TUCK" call was about as blatant an "official" game-changing call as there has ever been in the history of the NFL.

Based on such an obscure rule that when the referees were obligated to enforce the rule the following season because of the flair-up the call caused, it COULD NOT BE DONE!!!!!! It drove the referees into huddles every time a quarterback had the ball knocked out of his hands from a pass rush. They would call the tuck rule one game, then say it was a fumble the next, until they finally gave up on it completely and it has never been called once in the last two years, though there have clearly been cases where the quarterback brought the ball back down and still fumbled it.

BTW, anyone who ever questions whether the NFL has any bias need only watch New England or Dallas home games over the years to see if there EVER was a call in either location that could affect the outcome of the game that did not favor the home team. I know, this happens in other cities as well, but to my knowledge, the calls occasionally did favor the visiting team elsewhere. Not so in Foxboro or Dallas. Michael Irving made a career out of grabbing cornerbacks deep down field and pulling them over him so he could get the defensive pass interference call when Dallas needed a fourth quarter comeback. Worked every time.