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Offline spursfan101

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End of season breakdown
« on: February 25, 2004, 12:36:07 PM »
Here are the breakdowns for the Elite teams in the West remaining games. The five elite teams in the west are:
Spurs
Lakers
Wolves
Kings
Mavs

San Antonio (3rd @ 37-19)
26 games remaining
12 vs teams with losing records
14 vs teams with winning records
7 of those 14 vs other elite teams
2 vs Wolves; 2 vs Kings; 2 vs Mavs; 1 vs Lakers
2-7 record vs Elite teams so far*
*we have won the last two

Lakers (4th @ 35-19)
28 games remaining
12 vs teams with losing records
16 vs teams with winning records
6 of those 16 vs other elite teams
2 vs Wolves; 3 vs Kings; 1 vs Spurs
5-5 record vs Elite teams so far*
*they won the first 5, and have now dropped the last 5

Wolves (2nd @ 40-16)
26 games remaining
10 vs teams with losing records
16 vs teams with winning records
6 of those 16 vs other elite teams
2 vs Lakers; 2 vs Spurs; 1 vs Mavs; 1 vs Kings
6-4 record vs Elite teams so far

Kings (1st @ 40-14)
28 games remaining
12 vs teams with losing records
16 vs teams with winning records
8 of those 16 vs other elite teams
3 vs Lakers; 2 vs Spurs; 2 vs Mavs; 1 vs Wolves
3-5 record vs Elite teams so far

Mavs (5th @ 35-20)
27 games remaining
16 vs teams with losing records
11 vs teams with winning records
5 of those 11 vs other elite teams
2 vs Spurs; 2 vs Kings; 1 vs Wolves
8-3 record vs Elite teams so far
 
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2004, 01:12:30 PM »
cool chart.
Altho I'm livin in the moment Baby.  BBQ at Realitys house Thurs night.  
  • Main course Spurs over Dallas
  • with desert being Kings +10 over Faders.
Elite 4 i have no problem with.  Calling Dallas elite i dont think so.  While i am not dissing Dallas, I'm not so sure the fast closing Memphis Griz, Denver (we'll see tonight) and Yao Baby are not right on Dallas doorstep.  Yao and Hou even and better then Dallas but not with Van Gruntys offense repressing Yao.
  Same warning all WCs including Spursies.  I wouldn't take any of the Midwest winnin teams lightly and get a 1st round punkin.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2004, 01:44:20 PM »
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Here are the breakdowns for the Elite teams in the West remaining games. The five elite teams in the west are:
Spurs
Lakers
Wolves
Kings
Mavs

San Antonio (3rd @ 37-19)
26 games remaining
12 vs teams with losing records
14 vs teams with winning records
7 of those 14 vs other elite teams
2 vs Wolves; 2 vs Kings; 2 vs Mavs; 1 vs Lakers
2-7 record vs Elite teams so far*
*we have won the last two

Lakers (4th @ 35-19)
28 games remaining
12 vs teams with losing records
16 vs teams with winning records
6 of those 16 vs other elite teams
2 vs Wolves; 3 vs Kings; 1 vs Spurs
5-5 record vs Elite teams so far*
*they won the first 5, and have now dropped the last 5

Wolves (2nd @ 40-16)
26 games remaining
10 vs teams with losing records
16 vs teams with winning records
6 of those 16 vs other elite teams
2 vs Lakers; 2 vs Spurs; 1 vs Mavs; 1 vs Kings
6-4 record vs Elite teams so far

Kings (1st @ 40-14)
28 games remaining
12 vs teams with losing records
16 vs teams with winning records
8 of those 16 vs other elite teams
3 vs Lakers; 2 vs Spurs; 2 vs Mavs; 1 vs Wolves
3-5 record vs Elite teams so far

Mavs (5th @ 35-20)
27 games remaining
16 vs teams with losing records
11 vs teams with winning records
5 of those 11 vs other elite teams
2 vs Spurs; 2 vs Kings; 1 vs Wolves
8-3 record vs Elite teams so far
Why isn't Indy into consideration?  IMO, they have as good a record as LA and better than SacTown and SA -- only the Wolves and the Mavs have a better record against top opponents.

Indy has beaten the TWolves, Mavs, Spurs and Lakers.
Indy has lost to the TWolves, Kings, Lakers and Spurs.

Also, somebody PLEASE clue me in why they would say this:

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Elite 4 i have no problem with. Calling Dallas elite i dont think so. While i am not dissing Dallas, I'm not so sure the fast closing Memphis Griz, Denver (we'll see tonight) and Yao Baby are not right on Dallas doorstep. Yao and Hou even and better then Dallas but not with Van Gruntys offense repressing Yao.

Umm, Dallas has beaten the Spurs 2x, Minn. 2x, Lakers 2x, and SacTown 2x.
Dallas has lost to the Lakers 2x and the TWolves 1x.

Please explain to me how you can discount the Mavs when they have the BEST record against the elite teams in the league?  And then you count in a team that is 2-7 against elite teams and call them the favorites?  Try and be just a LITTLE objective, okay?  

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2-7 record vs Elite teams so far*
*we have won the last two

Hmm, aren't you the one who HATES astericks?   :lol:

I don't think that asterick means anything -- the Lakers could use an asterick to show how many of those 5 games (against elite teams) we have lost without our HOF'ers.  Astericks are just a way of trying to make excuses for how your team has faired weeks earlier.  

Also, the Spurs no longer have players who have to be doubled other than TD.  Dallas has always had a tough time because they had to double TD and DRob -- no more -- and Speedy isn't there to take up the slack with Parker is playing bad -- and Jackson isn't there to knock down the long range shot.  Spurs have a LOT to prove -- and this game against the Mavs is HUGE for the Spurs -- the Mavs have already proven themselves in this season -- they have to prove themselves in the post-season.

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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2004, 01:56:32 PM »
It's ASTERISK!!!!!!! not asterick!!!!! If you guys can't figure that one little thing out, you might try using spellcheck once in while.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2004, 01:58:27 PM »
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It's ASTERISK!!!!!!! not asterick!!!!! If you guys can't figure that one little thing out, you might try using spellcheck once in while.
You're both wrong, when it comes to dicussing the Sp*rs it's spelled "ass-ter-tisk-tisk".
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2004, 01:59:41 PM »
Listen to him ramble on.
Indy is not in consideration because 101 is talking West Conf.  

Randy your posts on some other subjects the past two weeks were great.

Continuing to try to rain on the Spurs pic nic will get you nowhere.
C'mon over to my house Thursday night.  Take a break from foil shining and purple fresh coat painting at the Laker House.
Kick you feet up and watch some hoop, eat n drink and socialize.

Your question on Dallas is a legit one.  However my take is they have been and are early season terrors who flame out when it counts.  Like i said, i dont diss them or not take them very seriously and yes your stats show they were the best vs elite.  That was then, this is now.  

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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2004, 02:34:14 PM »
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Continuing to try to rain on the Spurs pic nic will get you nowhere.
C'mon over to my house Thursday night. Take a break from foil shining and purple fresh coat painting at the Laker House.
Kick you feet up and watch some hoop, eat n drink and socialize.

It's a little far for me to take you up on that one -- however, I think that the Spurs have rained on themselves.  Two consecutive wins is hardly enough to convince me (or anyone else who isn't a Spurs fan) that the Spurs are a serious challenger.  They need to prove they can beat the elite teams and so far their record sucks.  

And if you actually read my post, I would say the same thing about the Lakers.  The Lakers proved early on they could beat top teams but they need to prove it today.

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Your question on Dallas is a legit one. However my take is they have been and are early season terrors who flame out when it counts. Like i said, i dont diss them or not take them very seriously and yes your stats show they were the best vs elite. That was then, this is now.

I still think it's true -- as far as that was then, this is now -- if the Spurs lose against the Mavs, would you still say that was true?  So far, the Mavs have proven to have the Spurs number -- I think it's up to the Spurs to prove it now, IMO.  You seem to think that the Spurs have proven themselves and the Mavs haven't -- to date, I believe it's the opposite.