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Kerry excommunicated from Catholic church?
« on: October 19, 2004, 11:33:26 AM »
Letter Supports Anti-Kerry Bid Over Abortion
By PAM BELLUCK
 
OSTON, Oct. 18 - A canon lawyer seeking to have Senator John Kerry excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church because of his support for abortion rights said on Monday that he had ammunition in the form of a letter issued at the request of a senior Vatican official.

The lawyer, Marc Balestrieri of Los Angeles, who heads a conservative Catholic nonprofit organization called De Fide, also said that, based on the letter, he would now seek to have four other Catholic politicians excommunicated: Senators Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, Tom Harkin of Iowa, Susan Collins of Maine, and Mario M. Cuomo, the former governor of New York.

"Senator Kerry, and all pro-choice Catholic politicians, who publicly call themselves Catholic yet who blatantly violate canon law by continuing to profess heresy and receive Holy Communion, must publicly reject their abortion advocacy for the sake of their own souls, and the others they have scandalized," Mr. Balestrieri said in a statement. "They have been excommunicated."

Only Ms. Collins is not a Democrat.

The letter to Mr. Balestrieri, written by another American canon lawyer at the request of a Vatican official, says that "if a Catholic publicly and obstinately supports the civil right to abortion, knowing that the church teaches officially against that legislation, he or she commits that heresy" and is "automatically excommunicated."

The letter, first reported on Friday by Eternal Word Television Network, a Catholic station in Alabama, was written last month after Mr. Balestrieri met with an official at the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

In June, Mr. Balestrieri filed a complaint accusing Mr. Kerry of heresy and seeking to have him excommunicated. The complaint was filed with the Archdiocese of Boston, where Mr. Kerry lives. The archdiocese, which declined to comment Monday, can decide whether Mr. Kerry should be excommunicated because he supports abortion rights.

Mr. Balestrieri said that when he was in Rome, he did not disclose to the Vatican that he had filed the petition against Mr. Kerry. He said he merely asked whether someone who publicly supports abortion rights was guilty of heresy.

Experts in canon law say Vatican officials frequently receive questions about matters of church doctrine. They can choose to answer those questions officially, giving their answers the weight of church law, or they can choose to answer them unofficially, delegating the matter to a canon lawyer not affiliated with the Vatican.

In Mr. Balestrieri's case, the undersecretary of the office, the Very Rev. Augustine di Noia, asked a friend, the Rev. Basil Cole, an associate professor at the Dominican House of Studies in Washington, to write an "unofficial" response to Mr. Balestrieri's question, Father Cole said in an interview.

A spokesman for Mr. Kerry, Michael Meehan, would say only: "Kerry's a Catholic who attends Mass regularly and receives communion. That explains his standing in the church."

A spokesman for Mr. Kennedy declined to comment. Mr. Harkin, Ms. Collins and Mr. Cuomo could not be reached.

 
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2004, 12:39:02 PM »
Psssst.... dabods added a politics board.. :up:


P.S.  Will the United Methodist Church give Bush the boot for going against their official stances on the death penalty, abortion and gun control?  

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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2004, 12:41:38 PM »
Hey 101, think you can keep these off-topic posts in their rightful place?   :angry: :rofl:

Seriously though. That's totally heavy news. I doubt it will faze Kerry much. Politicians in general, both left and right, worship a different god than God, IMO. The Catholic church has a pretty strong stand on abortion. If every church enforced every doctrinal standard, there'd be a lot of heretics out there. I hope this isn't purely political. Going after a guy's membership in his church is pretty low.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2004, 01:16:13 PM »
Wow, didn't know we separated threads.  
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2004, 01:50:24 PM »
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Wow, didn't know we separated threads.

Guess the sticky at the top of the board wasn't obvious enough.....

And this is why I don't categorize myself specifically in religion.  I believe what I believe, and won't disbelieve it because they tell me that's not how I should think.

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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2004, 04:20:30 PM »
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Wow, didn't know we separated threads.
101, I have to know. What is the little guy in your avatar saying?
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2004, 04:33:12 PM »
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101, I have to know. What is the little guy in your avatar saying?

As far as I know, absolutely nothing, just thought he was kind of cool. Am getting sick of him to be honest with you.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2004, 05:37:56 PM »
As someone who was forced to goto catholic church as a young italian stallion to praise the lord :rolleyes: I can say big frickin whoopty doo.  I don't know about Kerry but I would be happy to be barred from the religion.  Catholic Churches are some of the most boring places on earth...right next to Texas.

Besides, this is the Catholic Church we are talking about.  The same church that has been corrupt and went against their own rules for the last few centuries.
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