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Hokey Smokes, Kings are getting hammered!
« on: April 26, 2005, 11:55:51 PM »
I'm really surprised, I get home, turn on the tube, and Seattle is up by 24?!?! Wow JoMal, this is ugly.

As far as Philly is concerned I expected this, Detroit is doing exactly what they needed to do, force a half court game and control the tempo, you do that with that kind of defense and it is over. I think Philly is done in 5. Condolences Derrick and Rick, at least they made the playoffs though, more than I can say for the Lakers.
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2005, 08:29:25 AM »
The Kings can't contain Seattle -- they have some offensive firepower but Seattle has some decent defensive players -- however, SacTown can slow down Allen or Lewis but not both but for some reason, the Kings are making Jerome James look like a superstar -- count me as one who is puzzled that Brad Miller, usually a VERY strong defensive player, is getting punked out there, is he hurt?  He seems to be doing almost nothing.

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2005, 08:36:31 AM »
I don't think Brad's himself yet.  Although that wouldn't have made any difference in these first two games.

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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2005, 11:55:30 AM »
Kings ARE getting hammered. Before AND after the games, it seems, and not just during.

Why, you ask? Mainly because their team leadership got traded to Orlando and Philadelphia, or outright released to sign with the Lakers. The idea that Bibby or Peja or Miller would step in the void and become team leaders is a dismal failure. Mobley is vocal, but he's kind of nuts. The new guys are just that, and none of them have the presence to be a team leader, except maybe Williamson, but he's a bench player.

Without a true floor leader, we have five individuals playing as individuals. The ball movement that spells success for the Kings is kept in a locker at Arco Arena and not allowed to travel with the team for away games.

Worse, the coach keeps preaching to the media about guys getting aggressive and playing hard and working within the framework of the team's offensive strategy, then stands sternly on the sidelines during the games with arms folded, eyeballs rolling, and coyly passing his discussed message on to his players by sulkily walking back towards the bench with his glowering gaze on the floor in front of him. His counterpart is screaming at his players if they miss a minor defensive set. His timeouts are lectures on allowing the opponent to do anything he wants on offense, then backs it up by pulling players who don't listen. Adelman ends up pulling his entire starting unit in disgust, then lets the bench players exhaust themselves pulling the Kings out of the hole the starters got the team into without bringing in his rested guys.

The Sonic players are all playing for something. Playoff advancement as well as free agent deals, as nearly everyone on the team is playing out a contract. The Kings are playing for tee times in early May.

I have never been more down on the Kings before, even when they were NBA patsies. At least then you could expect no effort with the players the Kings had. But now, we all can see how overrated some of these guys really are. Bibby is getting outplayed by a rookie point guard who is playing horrible himself, but still better then Mike. Adelman actually had (and as much as I would like to be, I am not kidding) Corliss Williamson defending Jerome James for most of that third quarter. Corliss, bless him, did not shirk this duty, though at 6', 7", his efforts were hardly noticed by the 7'2" James, who proceded to score at will over the puny efforts of the littliest center in the League.

Where was Greg Ostertag? After nine first half minutes, he entered the Adelman doghouse once again and never emerged.

Somebody, bomb Arco and put me out of my misery.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2005, 12:21:55 PM »
Looks like the trade was a dismal failure for the Kings, eh?  With Webber there, there would have been some cohesiveness to their play.  With Divac there, they wouldn't have to rely on Corliss to defend a guy he's spotting over 5 inches to.

Ostertag isn't being given a chance in favor of Corliss Williamson?  Adelman is loosing his mind, unable to deal with the pieces he's been given.

All the players that provided leadership and focus are gone. Peja is not a leader.  Bibby can be, but he isn't at that level yet.  Skinner and Thomas are players, but not leaders and not good enough to put a team on their backs.

And the Maloofs are threatening to move, if they don't get a new stadium?  After this fiasco, they'll be lucky if they're not thrown out!

In the regular season, the Kings were doing fine, but in the playoffs their indadeqecies are being emphasized.  I used to like the Kings, I don't even care anymore.

It just isn't fair JoMal, they induced you to invest your emotions in a team and then destroyed the team in front of your eyes, and the result is an inferior prodcut that never would have earned your affection in the first place.  

Now the Kings are a tweener team.  Good enough to win to many games to get a decent lottery pick, but not good enough to win in the playoffs.  There's not enough youth there to get excited about the future and nothing else for Sactown fans to pay attention to in sports.  Makes a sports fan want to  :puke:  

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2005, 12:35:19 PM »
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Now the Kings are a tweener team.  Good enough to win to many games to get a decent lottery pick, but not good enough to win in the playoffs.
It's worse than that, they have no chance at a title but they're good enough to not get a lottery pick.
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2005, 12:48:48 PM »
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Looks like the trade was a dismal failure for the Kings, eh?  With Webber there, there would have been some cohesiveness to their play.  With Divac there, they wouldn't have to rely on Corliss to defend a guy he's spotting over 5 inches to.

Ostertag isn't being given a chance in favor of Corliss Williamson?  Adelman is loosing his mind, unable to deal with the pieces he's been given.

All the players that provided leadership and focus are gone. Peja is not a leader.  Bibby can be, but he isn't at that level yet.  Skinner and Thomas are players, but not leaders and not good enough to put a team on their backs.

And the Maloofs are threatening to move, if they don't get a new stadium?  After this fiasco, they'll be lucky if they're not thrown out!

In the regular season, the Kings were doing fine, but in the playoffs their indadeqecies are being emphasized.  I used to like the Kings, I don't even care anymore.

It just isn't fair JoMal, they induced you to invest your emotions in a team and then destroyed the team in front of your eyes, and the result is an inferior prodcut that never would have earned your affection in the first place.  

Now the Kings are a tweener team.  Good enough to win to many games to get a decent lottery pick, but not good enough to win in the playoffs.  There's not enough youth there to get excited about the future and nothing else for Sactown fans to pay attention to in sports.  Makes a sports fan want to  :puke:
lol -- umm, there aren't too many people out there (outside of a few Philly fans) who believe the Sixers scored on the Webber trade.  Without Webber's salary, the Kings have an opportunity to rebuild -- the fact is that the Maloofs ARE willing to reward quality free agents when contracts come up and that is VERY enticing to free agents out there in the NBA world.  Much more than the "big market," IMO.

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2005, 12:51:36 PM »
Are you guys sure that was the Kings?  Because the Kings im use to watching (and enjoyed watching) play at a high level, with a lot of energy.  They move without the ball well.  They move with the ball well.  They fast break.  They get easy buckets.  They shoot well.  The team I saw last night didnt play like that.

Whatever Maloof brother told Peja he could let his grandfather play in his place needs to jump off the top of their casino.  Ive never seen someone so blah during the playoff game.  Granted I didnt watched every single minute of the game as there was baseball and other games on but I did catch some of the game.
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2005, 01:52:58 PM »
If that was an example of quality Kings' basketball, then I just made a thunderous dunk in my shorts.
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2005, 03:20:04 PM »
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Ostertag isn't being given a chance in favor of Corliss Williamson?  Adelman is loosing his mind, unable to deal with the pieces he's been given.

 
Fool me once, shame on you Adleman.

Fool me twice, including last nights refusing to play 'Tag after his game 1 impressive performance, shame on me.

Against all inclinations I picked Sac in Game 2.  Cut Adleman slack and figured he would play Tag in Game 2.  W-r-o-n-g.  Lost pick.  Not that Sea wouldn't have won anyways.  Oh well.