Eddie Jordan Stinks.

[RickyPryor]

That did it.

Why no AI in the OT?  Or for the last :04 of regulation?
Why no Lou Will - seemingly at all - in the second goddamn half?
Why no Holliday for 'd' when their guard was undressing us?
WHY SO MUCH YOUNG???
Pssst: Green had only so much to give.  Once he became not-hot...he was to be benched, dumb dumb.
Iggy chokes and stinks.
Why the long ball for most of that OT?

I f**king HATE Eddie Jordan, and I'm beginning to hate this spineless, sissy team we have.  They don't deserve the energy I expend.

[rickortreat]

This loss really should get Eddie fired. They end the first half with a 20 point lead and then once again they blow it to an inferior team. It's not a coincidence, it is bad coaching. It is amazing to me that he hasn't been fired yet. I mean Stafanski should have fired him before the press conference and said he just couldn't take it anymore.

[RickyPryor]

This loss really should get Eddie fired. They end the first half with a 20 point lead and then once again they blow it to an inferior team. It's not a coincidence, it is bad coaching. It is amazing to me that he hasn't been fired yet. I mean Stafanski should have fired him before the press conference and said he just couldn't take it anymore.

While I agree Rick (don't forget who started this thread) - the team doesn't deserve a free pass either.  I mean Iggy, Lou, Young, Sam and Brand are getting plenty of minutes to win games.

I know, I know, Eddie needs to get the most of his guys during a long, 82-game season.  I'm just saying...if these guys were fearless, and REFUSED TO LOSE, they'd overcome at least SOME of the crappy situations the coach puts them in.  We all agree - he's completely incapable of leading them to victories they wouldn't have otherwise won.  But, damn, in their last 5 losses (I believe) they held double-digit leads!   How can pros do that so consistently?

I wish I had the time to figure out how many games we've lost by 4-5 points or less, and how many other games we blew with double-digit leads.

[Derek Bodner]

maybe if we didn't run out a midget lineup and make Corey Brewer into a guy you have to double team because you put a guy 9" smaller on him we could hold a lead.  Defense is the key to holding big leads, and we don't do that.  and putting two incompetent perimeter defenders at the 1 and 2 and a guy seriously out of position at the 4 due to the coaches choice isn't helping.

[RickyPryor]

True.

But I wish I'd see some 'd' from our master defender, Thad Young, and more from Speights...and Lou Wil....and Brand...

[marklapinski]

Unfortunately part of coaching is pulling your favorites and playing the players who deserve to play or should be playing based on how the players on the floor are doing.

Carney played well in the first half defensively, we were out to a big lead with him in there but he shot 0-5 and never saw time the second half.  Holiday played well defensively in the first half and saw little time after the break. Carney could have helped with Brewer.  I would prefer a 19 yo Holiday trying to stay in front of Flynn, then Lou, Green, or AI. 

We finished the first half with Brand at C, Iguodala at PF, Carney at SF and Lou and Jrue at the guard positions. What was up with that lineup?  You'd think someone was high or drunk to pull that lineup out of our roster.

Unfortunately we don't have a competent coach. Sure some problems lie with the players, but ultimately the coach is the one who picks who to play and when.  He doesn't understand how to stop a run, all he thinks about is scoring.  I think the "working on defense in practice" is lip service now.  We had 3 good defensive efforts in a row, primarily because Sammy was dominant in those games and Jordan pronounced that we were slowly solving our defensive problems.  Just like two weeks ago we were going uptown.  Someone needs to stop this madness.

[marklapinski]

True.

But I wish I'd see some 'd' from our master defender, Thad Young, and more from Speights...and Lou Wil....and Brand...

Anyone follow the career of Tim Thomas?  Doesn't Thad Young remind you of him.  Soft, poor/disinterested defender, terrible rebounder, etc.  He would be one I would like to trade for a young center.  DeAdre Jordan, or Anthony Randolph anyone?

[RickyPryor]

True.

But I wish I'd see some 'd' from our master defender, Thad Young, and more from Speights...and Lou Wil....and Brand...

Anyone follow the career of Tim Thomas?  Doesn't Thad Young remind you of him.  Soft, poor/disinterested defender, terrible rebounder, etc.  He would be one I would like to trade for a young center.  DeAdre Jordan, or Anthony Randolph anyone?

You might find that only I agree with your stance on Young.

[Derek Bodner]

I think there's one major difference between Young and Thomas:
Motivation

I don't see effort or work being a problem with Young down the line.  Because of that, i'm not going to dump him at the first sign of struggling.  If I'm blown away and get a comparably talented player?  Sure.

(I don't consider DeAndre Jordan that.  At all.  He's a "grass is always greener when he's not your incomplete young player" type of player.  We'd kill him for his defense, shot selection and lack of focus)

I also wouldn't mind seeing him, you know, at something crazy, like his natural position.

[RickyPryor]

I am constantly looking for reasons to forgive Thad.  I pull for him more than I pull for any other Sixer.  And, yes, he's out of position.  But I see - way too often - poor decisions, lack of intensity under the glass, trouble in traffic, getting beat off the dribble, etc etc to chalk it off to position.  I'm confident he'd make those same errors whether he was in at the 5 or as our PG.

I recall him having a similar stretch last year as well, fwiw.

[Derek Bodner]

I would expect him to have problems at both the 5 and the pg, yes.

And yes, I would expect a 20 year old (as he was last year) to go through stretches where he has problems.

[RickyPryor]

I would expect him to have problems at both the 5 and the pg, yes.

And yes, I would expect a 20 year old (as he was last year) to go through stretches where he has problems.

Yes, but, the problems I list have nothing to do with size, quickness or position:  decisions, intensity and basic basketball fundamentals should be evident no matter one's age or height.

And the fact that he's 20 isn't comforting.  He's now a pro: the playing field is level.  These are his problems to fix; not mine.

[Derek Bodner]

Right.  No players improve with age and experience.

[RickyPryor]

Right.  No players improve with age and experience.

They do.  And that's fortunate for Thad.

And while I never said what you claim I said - I'd prefer Thad plays a few less minutes while he continues to occasionally hurt us.

[tk76-]

maybe if we didn't run out a midget lineup and make Corey Brewer into a guy you have to double team because you put a guy 9" smaller on him we could hold a lead.  Defense is the key to holding big leads, and we don't do that.  and putting two incompetent perimeter defenders at the 1 and 2 and a guy seriously out of position at the 4 due to the coaches choice isn't helping.

But we live in world were you don't need PG's and your best defenders are your best scorers.  So when Green hits 5 shots in a row he's your defensive specialist.