That was not a travel

[Laker Fan]

Replayed it 10 times on DVR, no travel, bad call bogus finish, congrats Spurs fan, all except the one who was morphing into a Boston fan before this win.

[WayOutWest]

Replayed it 10 times on DVR, no travel, bad call bogus finish, congrats Spurs fan, all except the one who was morphing into a Boston fan before this win.

IMO it was a travel but he got bumped, good no call considering what the refs were allowing under the glass.  Serves the Lakers right for putting the ball in Ariza hand's to win the game.  WTF were they thinking?  There was enough time for Kobe to break free and go for the win.  Bad, bad, bad decision on Ariza's part.  Game was great, I'm hoping for some 20 point blowout payback at Staples.

[westkoast]

They have to make the foul call in that instance.  He was tripped and that is why he traveled.  Clearly that was shown on the replay.  I think it was a bad call but hay...would it have mattered had Derek Fisher not makd a rookie mistake?

Btw..I called Josh Powell.  Please refer to him as Phenomenal Powell from now on.  Thanks.

[Lurker]

May not habve been but after having listen to VG hype the Lakers the whole game it was karma.  Not too mention they way they mauled Duncan just 2 possessions earlier.   

Oops I mentioned it.   


BTW it sured look like Kobe was running the point in the 4th quarter.

[rickortreat]

Replayed it 10 times on DVR, no travel, bad call bogus finish, congrats Spurs fan, all except the one who was morphing into a Boston fan before this win.

IMO it was a travel but he got bumped, good no call considering what the refs were allowing under the glass.  Serves the Lakers right for putting the ball in Ariza hand's to win the game.  WTF were they thinking?  There was enough time for Kobe to break free and go for the win.  Bad, bad, bad decision on Ariza's part.  Game was great, I'm hoping for some 20 point blowout payback at Staples.

I was thinking exactly the same thing, why put the ball into Ariza's hands at the end?  For that matter why is Kobe's bringing the ball up?  Jackson was just dumb to not set something up in that situation.  Still I give the Lakers a lot of credit for coming back at the end. Kobe's got a lot of will, along with that ability, you could tell he really wanted this one.  IMO, a loss like this bothers the Lakers, knowing they could have won and didn't.  It should bother Jackson that it comes down to a foul that the ref doesn't call, and then bails himself out by calling a travel. Hardly anyone gets a call like that at the end, unless they are a star.

The Lakers backcourt, aside from Kobe is weak, they need someone better than Fisher.

[Reality]

Here was official Krishna response when Brent Barry was jumped on by Derek Swisher (no call) to essentially end the 2008 playoffs for the Spurs:
http://forums.phillyarena.net/index.php?topic=4571.0

I'll do a Reality recap of last nights game later. Did not dvr the game.  Play in question looked funky in realtime.  Looks like GNob definitely bodys Azirah.

It was not a foul on either of Kobmes back to back **+1**s 
It was not a foul on Kurt Thomas about 4 times he was defending
It was not a foul on Duncan numerous times vs Softie Gasol

It was a foul on either Odor or Gasol vs Dunkan, they the popcorn shot that fell in.

For some pure comedy and/or if your stomach needs emptying, watch DeReek Swisher after he fouls Mason on the game winner.

[westkoast]

Here was official Krishna response when Brent Barry was jumped on by Derek Swisher (no call) to essentially end the 2008 playoffs for the Spurs:
http://forums.phillyarena.net/index.php?topic=4571.0

I'll do a Reality recap of last nights game later. Did not dvr the game.  Play in question looked funky in realtime.  Looks like GNob definitely bodys Azirah.

It was not a foul on either of Kobmes back to back **+1**s 
It was not a foul on Kurt Thomas about 4 times he was defending
It was not a foul on Duncan numerous times vs Softie Gasol

It was a foul on either Odor or Gasol vs Dunkan, they the popcorn shot that fell in.

For some pure comedy and/or if your stomach needs emptying, watch DeReek Swisher after he fouls Mason on the game winner.

Here is something the box score didn't tell you...

The Spurs had a foul to give at that point.  That foul would not have sent Trevor Ariza to the line to win the game.

I'd try to explain the difference between a playoff game and a regular season game but it would be wasting my time.  We all know that.

[Reality]

Here is something the box score didn't tell you...

The Spurs had a foul to give at that point.  That foul would not have sent Trevor Ariza to the line to win the game.

Thanks for enlightening your fellow Lakers who are whining about the foul.  Seriously.  I didn't realize that either, had long since turned the sound off of Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson, arguing over who gets to slobber 1st over Kobe after the game.  Hmmn with your usual inaccuracies are you sure about this?

I'd try to explain the difference between a playoff game and a regular season game but it would be wasting my time.  We all know that.

Its never stopped you on on previous thousands of posts, why stop now?

[msc]

I thought this was a great game overall and can't even get caught up on calls.  I agree with WOW on the Ariza no call.  Was it a foul?   Probably, but it shouldn't have been in his hands at that point in the game AND I don't expect the officials to bail him out with a call in the last seconds even if it technically was.   I was more upset with Fisher's stupid foul at the end.  This Laker team cannot seem to defend the three point line.  It happens time after time and as soon as we get the guy to step in and take a two ... Fish fouls him.  Stupid.  But what a great shot by Mason.  He was money last night.

It was a fun game to watch.  Neither team played their best defense, but both teams made a lot of tough shots on the offensive end of the court.  In other words, unlike most games ... I couldn't blame last night entirely on poor D ... especially down the stretch when both teams seemed to ratchet up the intensity.  Man, Timmy made a couple of tough ones with some contact down low.  Great plays by him.  And Kobe is just Kobe.  I'm starting to get spoiled in that I completely expected him to make that deep 3.  He's unbelievable. 

Congrats to the Spurs fans on a very nice win.  I hated to lose that one once we got the lead at the very end ... it stung.  On the bright side it was great to see the my team competing up until the buzzer and to have a chance to steal one on the road against a great team is always a good thing. 

[Reality]

If you have access to recording, check out Swisher after he fouls Mason.  Pure comedy.  Not only does he double piroette, he then goes out of bounds and holds his hands to his eye as if he was gouged.  Bad acting.

On on the acting front, some scuttlebut that Swishers daughter did not even have to come to LA for specialists but rather Swisher wanted back on the Flamers.  Another thread.....

[Reality]

I would think you Lakers have to be happy with some of the O moves Bynum did on Duncan.

The blocked shot was nothing to get hyped about.  Very poor attempt by Duncan, giftwrapped the block for Byns.

[WayOutWest]

Congrats to the Spurs fans on a very nice win.  I hated to lose that one once we got the lead at the very end ... it stung.  On the bright side it was great to see the my team competing up until the buzzer and to have a chance to steal one on the road against a great team is always a good thing. 

It did hurt.    I really thought the Lakers had it in the bag but some great play by TD and a total brain fart by Fisher to blow it.  When Mason hit that shot I was TOTALLY thinking 4 point play.  The only person to blame on that last possesion is Ariza.  Kobe had to give up the ball because he had two guys all over him, Ariza should have been aware of the shot clock and been patient and given the ball back to Kobe.  I can deal with losing the game on a Kobe possesion but losing a game the way it was lost last night sucks!

I was very happy to see the Lakers compete the way the did, despite playing very little defense.  I really thought they were going to get blow out by the Spurs for various reason.

I have a few questions for REAL Spurs fans:

What has happened to Udoka?  He seems solid last year, did not see a glimpse of the guy. 

What gives with Bowen, he got yanked instantly while Blockhead..err..Bonner was allowed to make mistake after mistake.

Did you guys expect this type of game from Mason?  Has Mason been playing that well all year?  Mason came out of nowhere, he has had very little production over his career because of injuries and other factors.  Mason has never really had a shot at showcasing his skills, seems like the Spurs have found ANOTHER hidden treasure where as their fans were bummed that Mason was all they could scrap off the bottome of the NBA's FA's shoes.

Based on what I saw last night I think the Spurs have no shot at winning the West.  Their front court is way too shallow and they don't have nearly the size to compete with the other squads in the WC.  TD can not do it all himself and I don't expect that type of 3 pt shooting to continue all year and into the playoffs so something needs to be done in regards to getting another big if the Spurs expect to compete in the playoffs.  When TD is out teams will start to stay with the Spurs long range shooters, you can not play TD all 48 so something has got to change.  IMO the Spurs are the true challenge to the Lakers.  The Hornets IMO had a fluke season last year, as great as CP3 is he is not taking that team past the 2nd round.  The Suns IMO are probably too old and not talented enough to hang with the Lakers.  Utah can be the dark horse but the Spurs are who I fear the most.  You put TD, TP, and Manu on the court and they have enough to win a series against any team.

[westkoast]

You can't be too mad when they had a solid chance to win the game on a back to back on the road.

[WayOutWest]

You can't be too mad when they had a solid chance to win the game on a back to back on the road.

I'm only mad at Fisher for that bonehead play.

Here's the last 12 seconds from my "inside source".

http://www.lakersmedia.com/video/index.php?p=708

[Joe Vancil]

I'd try to explain the difference between a playoff game and a regular season game but it would be wasting my time.  We all know that.

Yes, it would be a waste of your time.  The fact that the two are refereed differently *AT* *ALL* is a waste of everybody's time.  I'm not saying they're not;  I'm saying it's ridiculous that they are.