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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2009, 03:51:02 PM »
Jersey is 6-5 vs the West.
3-3 vs the Pacific, including a split with Phx.

Not so sure Phx is soo much better then Jersey.

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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2009, 03:57:30 PM »
Are you really trying extra hard to be an idiot today?  I mean you are getting bodied in two threads now.

So because Jersey is .500 against Pacific teams that means they are as good as the Suns? LOL.  I thought I heard it all from you.
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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2009, 04:08:18 PM »
Are you really trying extra hard to be an idiot today?  I mean you are getting bodied in two threads now.

So because Jersey is .500 against Pacific teams that means they are as good as the Suns? LOL.  I thought I heard it all from you.
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yeah, the validity of WoWkoasts self proclaimed ownages are very apparant. :D
If you are claiming the Pacific Patsies are sooo much better then the Atlantic, why is Jersey 3-3?  Including a win at Phx.
Cue skirt off.....

I think Phx would take Jersey in a series.  Wouldnt be a rout by any means....

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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2009, 04:17:30 PM »
LOL @ you misquoting and proving you are being extra idiotic today.

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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2009, 09:14:55 AM »
Jersey is 1-1 vs Phoenix.

Your attempts to misquote that are WoWkoastie.  But go ahead, do some Laker Math.  :D

After last nights win, Jersey is 4-3 vs the Pacific.
RRRrrrrraaaaauugh.

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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2009, 09:41:15 AM »
After last night.....

Still only ONE team over .500 in the Atlantic!  OWNED!  :D
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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2009, 10:09:16 AM »
Jersey is 1-1 vs Phoenix.

Your attempts to misquote that are WoWkoastie.  But go ahead, do some Laker Math.  :D

After last nights win, Jersey is 4-3 vs the Pacific.
RRRrrrrraaaaauugh.

Damn lets award New Jersey the championship! 

You can't ignore the following:

Joe already proved you wrong by breaking down the w/l column on the previous page

There still is only one team in that division over .500

No one else in the Atlantic Division is a legit contender outside of Boston
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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2009, 10:37:20 PM »
Jersey is 6-5 vs the West.
3-3 vs the Pacific, including a split with Phx.

Not so sure Phx is soo much better then Jersey.

 :D

I guess that the Celtics are not that much better than the Bobcats based on your logic right?
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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2009, 11:11:35 AM »
Jersey is 1-1 vs Phoenix.

Your attempts to misquote that are WoWkoastie.  But go ahead, do some Laker Math.  :D

After last nights win, Jersey is 4-3 vs the Pacific.
RRRrrrrraaaaauugh.

Damn lets award New Jersey the championship! 

You can't ignore the following:

Joe already proved you wrong by breaking down the w/l column on the previous page

There still is only one team in that division over .500

No one else in the Atlantic Division is a legit contender outside of Boston
Which point.  The one i made that Jersey is 1-1 vs Phx?
Or that Jersey is 6-5 (now 7-5) vs the Pacific?

Laker Math says otherwise.  *Proof*. :D

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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2009, 11:19:20 AM »
Jersey is 1-1 vs Phoenix.

Your attempts to misquote that are WoWkoastie.  But go ahead, do some Laker Math.  :D

After last nights win, Jersey is 4-3 vs the Pacific.
RRRrrrrraaaaauugh.

Damn lets award New Jersey the championship! 

You can't ignore the following:

Joe already proved you wrong by breaking down the w/l column on the previous page

There still is only one team in that division over .500

No one else in the Atlantic Division is a legit contender outside of Boston
Which point.  The one i made that Jersey is 1-1 vs Phx?
Or that Jersey is 6-5 (now 7-5) vs the Pacific?

Laker Math says otherwise.  *Proof*. :D

Reality has been owned so bad he tries to sneak in with his "hidden" account settings to TRY and get a barb in.  But when he gets uber-PWN3D he runs away and ingores the post like a little girl!  :D

Reality, have the Spurs moved TD to center since he's taller than Bonner and Flabs?  :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2009, 11:40:08 AM »
Yes I've really "hidden" since the days of the msnbc board.  I put my account on "hidden" ever since i recieved emails from a board member who claims he never sent them and that his email account was long ago hacked.  Wow i guess that makes me a "hider".

Your desperation reeks. 

And so Jersey is not 1-1 vs Phx nor were they 6-5 and now 7-5 vs the West.  Laker Math at its twisty finest.
rrrrrrrauuugh I'm so Pwned. :D

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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2009, 11:52:18 AM »
Yes I've really "hidden" since the days of the msnbc board.  I put my account on "hidden" ever since i recieved emails from a board member who claims he never sent them and that his email account was long ago hacked.  Wow i guess that makes me a "hider".

Your desperation reeks. 

Hidding your online status does not prevent someone from emailing you pendejo!  Your ignorance reeks! -OR- Your dishonesty reeks!  You disappear durring Lakers glory and show up in full force after a loss. 

And so Jersey is not 1-1 vs Phx nor were they 6-5 and now 7-5 vs the West.  Laker Math at its twisty finest.
rrrrrrrauuugh I'm so Pwned. :D

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Bobcats beat the Celtics so by Reality logic they must be better!  ::)
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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2009, 12:06:06 PM »
Reality you said yourself that New Jersey would not beat the Suns in a series.  So what the hell do you keep babbling about?  Is New Jersey a better team than the Phoenix Suns? No.  Who in that division is better than the Suns other than Boston?  No one.  So there is 2 quality teams and the rest are horrible.  The Atlantic has 1 quality team and the rest are barely staying afloat.  I guess in Reality math 2 < 1 right?  :D

Pacific has two playoff bound teams that have as good a shot as anyone to get out of the first round.  The Suns were actually picked the two previous years to go all the way.  When is the last time the Nets were picked to go all the way?  2003?

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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2009, 01:38:04 PM »
Fine, fine...let me break the whole thing down....<sigh>.

Team           Record       Atl Record   Pac Record  "in division"  Adjusted Record
Boston         29-7          6-1            2-2                8-3             21-4
New Jersey   17-18        3-2             4-3               7-5             10-13
Philadelphia   14-20        2-4             4-1               6-5             8-15
Toronto        14-21        2-5             3-2               5-7             9-14
New York      13-20        2-3             2-2               4-5             9-15

LAL              27-6          5-0            7-1               12-1            15-5
Phoenix        19-12         2-1            2-2                4-3             15-9
Golden St.     10-26        3-4             1-2               4-6             6-20
LAC              8-26          0-4            0-6               0-10            8-16
Sac              8-28          0-6            4-3               4-9              4-19

So, it breaks down as follows:

If you believe the best indicator is how well these teams do HEAD TO HEAD, the standings break down as:

Los Angeles     12    1   .923       -
Boston             8     3   .727      3
New Jersey       7     5   .583      4.5
Phoenix            4     3   .571      5
Philadelphia       6     5   .545      5
New York          4     5   .444      6
Toronto            5     7   .417      6.5
Gold. St.           4     6   .400      6.5
Sac.                4     9    .308      8
LAC                 0    10    .000     10.5

What you see in this is that the top teams are cannibalizing the bottom teams.  So how does this stack up with what they've done against the REST of the league?

Boston           21     4     .840   -  
LA Lakers       15     5     .750   3.5
Phoenix          15     9     .625   5.5
New Jersey     10    13    .435   10
Toronto          9     14    .391   11
New York        9     15    .375   11.5
Philadelphia     8     15    .347    12
LA Clippers      8     16    .333    12.5
Golden St.      6      20   .231     15.5
Sacramento    4      19   .174     16

Boston is better against the rest of the league than against the Atlantic/Pacific.

The Lakers success has come by cannibalizing the Atlantic/Pacific.

Phoenix is doing better against teh rest of the league than against Atlantic/Pacific - AND HAVE PLAYED THE FEWEST GAMES AGAINST ATLANTIC/PACIFIC.  In other words, they've got a bunch of games left against the lesser players.  They're better than their current record against Atlantic/Pacific.

New Jersey has it's current record because it has cannibalized its own "division" (meaning Atlantic/Pacific).  Their schedule looks to get TOUGHER from here on out - with a losing record, and 4.5 games behind Phoenix.  In other words, they're irrelevant.

Toronto, who is only a game behind New Jersey, has struggled within its own division.  In other words, they're losing games that one would think they should win.  That being the case, this may be the 2nd best team in the Atlantic - which is a lot closer to what most of us thought of them in preseason.  Still, they are reaping some benefit from cannibalization.

New York is also gaining benefit from cannibalizing the division.  They still have some room to cannibalize a bit more.  Doesn't make them relevant, though.

Philadelphia - another team gaining benefit from cannibalizing.

The Clippers are the team who is being eaten up by the division.  They're doing NOTHING in division play.  Yet looking at how they've done against everyone else, they're closer to New Jersey than New Jersey is to Phoenix.  

We now get to the worst of the worst - Golden State and Sacramento.  If there's a break between Phoenix and New Jersey, there's also a break between the Clippers and Golden State.

Golden State has gained some benefit from cannibalizing its division.  Yet even that keeps it at significant distance from even graduating to AWFUL.

Sacramento needs to just stick to playing in it's division.  Apparently, they're the only people they can beat.

So - AGAIN - you come back to three teams - Boston, LA Lakers, and Phoenix.  The "success" of the rest of the Atlantic/Pacific teams comes from cannibalizing the rest of the division.  NJ, NY, Phil, and Tor are better than GS, LAC, and Sac - and GS and Sac are in a lower class than the rest of the group.  So it gets back to the question - is two relevant teams, one irrelevant team, and two hopeless teams a better division than one relevant team, and four irrelevant teams?  And again, my answer is YES.

I have to give the nod to the Pacific as being the better division.

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Re: Eastern Division W-L records
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2009, 01:45:19 PM »
Jersey is 1-1 vs Phoenix.

Your attempts to misquote that are WoWkoastie.  But go ahead, do some Laker Math.  :D

After last nights win, Jersey is 4-3 vs the Pacific.
RRRrrrrraaaaauugh.

Damn lets award New Jersey the championship! 

You can't ignore the following:

Joe already proved you wrong by breaking down the w/l column on the previous page

There still is only one team in that division over .500

No one else in the Atlantic Division is a legit contender outside of Boston
Which point.  The one i made that Jersey is 1-1 vs Phx?
Or that Jersey is 6-5 (now 7-5) vs the Pacific?

Laker Math says otherwise.  *Proof*. :D

Sorry - but now you're doing un-REALITY math.  New Jersey CANNOT be 7-5 against the Pacific, since they only play 10 games against the Pacific.
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