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Offline rickortreat

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2008, 07:51:45 PM »
I understand but I think they should be able to work it out.  The problem is with Lou.  All he wants to do is drive to the basket.  The rest of the team should send him to bed without supper until he starts thinking pass first. (I DID like the dunk) Lou has to learn how to be a point guard.  He's never going to be another Iverson, and he better understand that.

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2008, 07:56:19 PM »
Tonight it's the 2nd team that's fallen behind. Now that the starters are back, they're picking up steam.

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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2008, 07:57:18 PM »
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The problem is with Lou.  All he wants to do is drive to the basket.  The rest of the team should send him to bed without supper until he starts thinking pass first. (I DID like the dunk) Lou has to learn how to be a point guard.

Or maybe the sixers (and fans) should understand what player louis williams is and what kind of playerr louis williams isn't (and probably never will be)...his court vision is terrible - he's not an instinctive passer, he's never been a point guard until the sixers asked him to.

BTW - pretty much all williie green wants to do is drive to the basket as well - he just gets fouled a lot less -

The problem is that to me Louis Williams and WIllie Green are redundant repetitive players, neither of whom is or will ever be a point guard no matter how much you try to force it - and i'd prefer only one of them on the court at a time and that player is williams.  You can't make a player something he is not nor has ever been I believe - and Louis Williams has never been a point guard regardless of height. 

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2008, 08:02:18 PM »
Hell at least FOUL jeff green one time - hard - maybe throw his rhythm off or something

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2008, 08:08:23 PM »
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Must get better defensive rebounding - please

We're getting 75% of the defensive rebounding opportunities.  and this is on our "bad" night.  On the year we get 30% of our offensive rebounding opportunities and our opponents get 24%.  We're phenomenal in that regard. 

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Or maybe the sixers (and fans) should understand what player louis williams is and what kind of playerr louis williams isn't (and probably never will be)...his court vision is terrible - he's not an instinctive passer, he's never been a point guard until the sixers asked him to.

Or, maybe Sixers fans realize this, and we're just upset because he's regressed, and his %'s are down across the board, his shots per minute are up across the board, and he's not getting to the line at all.

But yeah, I'm sure it's just because we're all too uninformed to know what Louis Williams is.

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2008, 08:12:51 PM »
Lou Williams came out of High School, and in the NBA all he has been is a back-up guard.  He got a limited contract this year, and so far hasn't even been worth that.  The truth is Willie has outplayed and outperformed Lou so far this season.

Right now Lou looks like a bad player to me, out osf synch with the rest of the team. When he has the ball, everyone else just stands there.  He doesn't try to get them involved, and they don't look to him to pass the ball.

At least Willie is a better defender.

We really do have a problem at guard. Miller is our best point and he's lazy and a head case. We can't afford to move him because we have no one to replace him. I didn't like any of the trade options either, which means we really need Lou to become a POINT GUARD.

He has a good enough handle, he just needs to learn to be a team player. It may be that he just doesn't have the ability, he doesn't see the game well enough to understand how to set up his team-mates. Still, he should be able to learn a couple of set plays to enable the Sixers to function in a half-court.  He should be an ideal guard for the pick and roll.

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2008, 08:22:21 PM »
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Miller is our best point and he's lazy and a head case.

Huh?

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which means we really need Lou to become a POINT GUARD.

As far as I'm concerned, that never happens and the sixers have screwed themselves royally by not trading miller when he had more trade value, and I expect that they're kind of screwed unless they somehow get lucky in the draft :)


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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2008, 08:25:37 PM »
No fouls on the starters until the 2nd half?  That's kind of odd

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2008, 08:34:50 PM »
Wow! Bomb away Andre!  Iguodala should look for 10 open 3 pointers per game.

How is Ander Miller a head-case?  How else do you explain all the mistakes he makes?  He knows how to play, but he makes really dumb decisions at times.  The last play of the first half, he wasted the 4 seconds mishandling the ball and forcing a unmakeable long-distance shot when he could have passed the ball ahead for an easy score. 

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2008, 08:36:23 PM »
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How is Ander Miller a head-case?  How else do you explain all the mistakes he makes?  He knows how to play, but he makes really dumb decisions at times.  The last play of the first half, he wasted the 4 seconds mishandling the ball and forcing a unmakeable long-distance shot when he could have passed the ball ahead for an easy score.

So Sam Dalembert and Louis Williams head cases too?

Or lazy?

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2008, 08:36:56 PM »
I really hope the bench doesn't let the thunder back in the game like they did in the first half (if mo lets em play)

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2008, 08:39:53 PM »
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Wow! Bomb away Andre!  Iguodala should look for 10 open 3 pointers per game.

His accuracy improves tremendously when he sticks to catch and shoot 3's.  His shooting actually doesn't worry me too much with regards to his fitting in with Brand, because he's actually a solid set shooter.  It's when he tries to create his own jumpshot that he struggles.

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2008, 08:41:48 PM »
A lot of players having very nice games tonight, Andre (#4) looking good in the flow of the offense, getting some good looks, sam went an entire half without a foul and is having a nice stat line night...really like how they came out so far in the 3rd - but worried now that the bench is being integrated...I think mo has to change his sub patterns from the first half...can't go with 'all 5' players being bench I don't think...

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2008, 08:49:37 PM »
Do the sixers really have no designed plays for Thaddeus Young or is that a factor of having very few designed plays for specific players in general?

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Re: Sixers/Thunder
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2008, 08:53:56 PM »
I don't think we have set plays outside of dump the ball in the post to brand and stand around.  I guess we have the pick and pop, or at least we did for the one game (raptors).  If we don't have designed plays for Thad, it's time to start running some for him.  I don't think you should be bragging that you don't run plays for your 2nd best offensive player.