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Offline Derek Bodner

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I friggin hate the phillies
« on: July 17, 2008, 07:06:24 PM »
I really do.

It's a testament to this core that they have that they can compete.  After they're done wasting Utley/Rollins/Howards/Hamels prime, they'll be the laughing stock again, as they give away all minor league talent for middling (at best) players.

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 07:16:39 PM »
So...tell us how you really feel about the blanton deal :)

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 07:28:30 PM »
It's amazing.  Almost every Phillies fan hates this deal and almost everybody else thinks this is a good deal for the Phillies.

I'm reserving judgement until October.

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 07:36:23 PM »
blanton's stats the last 3 years away from McAfee Coliseum (a pretty good pitchers park):
2006: 5.12 ERA, .318 BAA, 1.64 WHIP
2007: 5.11 ERA, .304 BAA, 1.43 WHIP
2008: 5.73 ERA, .285 BAA, 1.45 WHIP

HE STINKS

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 07:50:23 PM »
It's amazing.  Almost every Phillies fan hates this deal and almost everybody else thinks this is a good deal for the Phillies.

I'm reserving judgement until October.

Blanton has pitched just as well as Adam Eaton this year (equivalent ERA+ of 77)...Blanton isn't even league average and that's WITH the help of his home stadium, he stinks on the road, and he's a fly ball pitcher, AND the phils gave up the NUMBER ONE prospect in their system (in addition to other prospects who weren't trash) for this fat tub of goo who is adam eaton part two.

And don't bring up cardenas didn't have a position, it's too early to worry about that and he had more value than that.

It's a bad trade....unless blanton sucddenly believes he's rich harden and leanrs how to throw ground balls

Per usual billy beane violates a befuddled GM

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 08:49:18 PM »
Dude, I tried posting on PhilaPhans about the phillies.

That site is HORRIBLE.  Far worse than RealGM.  Talk about a mistake wasting my time.

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 09:09:11 PM »
Dude, I tried posting on PhilaPhans about the phillies.

That site is HORRIBLE.  Far worse than RealGM.  Talk about a mistake wasting my time.

Yeah, but they banned me, so realgm and philaphans have that in common :)

Just go to backshegoes.com if you want good phillies talk


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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 09:26:57 PM »
Dude, I tried posting on PhilaPhans about the phillies.

That site is HORRIBLE.  Far worse than RealGM.  Talk about a mistake wasting my time.

it used to be a decent place to post for baseball.  Not so much any more.  It is a great place to join a clique or be insulted, kind of like high school without the good parts.

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2008, 12:28:47 AM »
It's really difficult being a Phillies fan.

They rope you onto the bandwagon, and then.... well, we know the rest.

The Mets are surpassing our boys before our very eyes.  The mental edge shifted when they took 3 of 4 in Citizens Bank Park.  That was a god-awful series.  The worst thing is, I thought the Phils outplayed the Mets over those 4 days.... Yet they had nothing to show for it.... Letting the Mets steal 3 of 4 was the beginning of the end.

I predict a slow, sad demise this season... Not for nothing, but Mike Pelfrey is pitching ridiculously well....

Johan - Hamels
Pedro - Kendrick
Maine - Myers
Pelfrey - Moyer
Perez - Blanton

advantage......... Mets.  God, I despise the Mets.  Imagine experiencing this whole decline in Flushing.  Yes, Flushing, NY is where I reside...  I can ride my bike to Shea.... Forced to listen to the fan 660 every night and deal with these dregs of society, drooling over their overpaid, underachievers.

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2008, 08:42:16 AM »
Why are people ignoring that the offense seems to have started crapping the bed as well...at home and on the road...

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2008, 08:59:57 AM »
It's amazing.  Almost every Phillies fan hates this deal and almost everybody else thinks this is a good deal for the Phillies.

I'm reserving judgement until October.

I've never seen Blanton pitch, so I will do the same. However, whether you go with Blanton or Happ, you still don't have the pitching that will win you a playoff series, so I would rather just go with Happ in the rotation since he wouldn't cost us any prospects. We will clearly need our hitting to carry us.

Nonetheless, people hated the Lidle, Moyer, and Lohse trades, and while they weren't top-of-the-rotation guys, they provided good starting pitching. Hopefully, Blanton will give us at least what we got from Lohse last season.

Also, I read that PhillyChuck had Outman as a top prospect last year, and this year he apparently was in the bullpen. What happen to him?

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2008, 09:08:10 AM »
The phillies happened to him.

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2008, 06:55:32 PM »
I said this team was in trouble a couple of months ago, consistent hitting and pitching was my main problem then, now it just seems like we have a dog dumb management. Gillick can't retire fast enough.

However, I disagree that Cardenas is our best prospect, I think Marson has taken that spot. But still, giving up Cardenas for a career 4.25 ERA pitcher (and declining) is really horrible.

Maybe he'll pull a Lidge?

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2008, 07:38:29 PM »
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However, I disagree that Cardenas is our best prospect, I think Marson has taken that spot. But still, giving up Cardenas for a career 4.25 ERA pitcher (and declining) is really horrible.

ONE of the best...and you have to factor in age, cardenas might be a top 30 prospect by the end of the season, not just in the phillies system but in all of the minors...

When Gillick retires it won't get any better, don't kid yourself...amaro is an idiot too

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Re: I friggin hate the phillies
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2008, 07:46:38 PM »
Cardenas was top 3 no doubt IMO.  Marson, Carrasco and Cardenas were my top 3.  I put Donald right behind them, followed by Golson and Bastardo.