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Offline TheGuiltyParty

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Is Evans a Goner?
« on: June 28, 2008, 09:32:11 AM »
I know Reggie Evans' name came up in trade talks along with Andre Miller before the draft for Shawn Marion. At the time, it seemed like he was just filler but now that we've taken Speights, I'm wondering if Evans is as good as gone. Most of us assume that Stefanski will acquire a PF one way (free agency) or another (trade) so if that's the case, then our depth chart will look like:

1: Miller/Williams
2: Iguodala/Green
3: Young/Carney
4: NEW PF/Evans/Speights/Hill
5: Dalembert/Smith/Blount

It would seem to me that the removal of Evans off of this roster would open up a decent amount of PT for Speights. Also, when you consider that the new PF will probably chew up 36 minutes a game and Sam will take up 33 minutes, that leaves just 27 minutes a game for the reserves 4/5. I'm sure Mo will run a small lineup during the game with Thad getting 4 or 5 minutes at the 4, so that trims the free minutes left to 22 to be split between Smith, Evans, and Speights.

Considering his salary and the lack of a need for him, should Reggie Evans find himself having a "One and Done" career in Philly? I think so.

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2008, 10:33:30 AM »
It's possible that reggie evans had a 'career' year in philadelphia and may never have more trade value than he has now, i think the sixers should explore ALL options

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2008, 01:03:06 PM »
By the way, I don't want to come off as someone who is NOT a fan of Evans. I think he's one of the very few Sixers who actually showed up in the playoffs but my point is that when I factor his salary against his production against the minutes he'll take away from the Speight Train.... well, I think that we should look into moving him. That said, I wouldn't trade him just for the sake of trading him... I would want some value in return.

Wouldn't Memphis make some sense since they have some holes in their frontcourt and way too many PGs?

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2008, 01:17:40 PM »
Reggie Evans is a bench player, pure and simple, he has one very very good skill and a lot of very lacking skills.  If traded, I expect fans will bemoan the return cause they don't think it's enough.

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2008, 01:36:03 PM »
Reggie Evans is a bench player, pure and simple, he has one very very good skill and a lot of very lacking skills.  If traded, I expect fans will bemoan the return cause they don't think it's enough.

You're not kidding. I posted this over on realgm as well and there are some people that have a bromance going on with Evans.

By the way, when Iguodala signs his massive deal, do you believe he will instantly have the worst contract on the team? Right now it's a toss up between Dalembert's 3 years/$34MIL, Green's 3 years/$11MIL, and Evans 3 years/$14.6MIL. I think Dalembert's is still probably the hardest to move so he's the worst right now but wouldn't Iguodala override him?

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2008, 03:39:41 PM »
No I don't - I've had this debate too many times about andre iguodala - the nba is what it is, iguodala is a 10+ mil a year player in todays nba, if the sixers don't give it to him someone else will

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2008, 06:22:46 PM »
Evans is a candidate to be dumped if it clears up more cap room (either this year, to a team with a trade exception or memphis, or for next year).  That being said, his odds of being trained IMO aren't any more or less than before the draft, at least until Speights shows he can be a 20+ mpg contributor, and improves his defense.

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2008, 08:10:48 PM »
No I don't - I've had this debate too many times about andre iguodala - the nba is what it is, iguodala is a 10+ mil a year player in todays nba, if the sixers don't give it to him someone else will

+1

Being the 12 highest paid SF in the league will give him a huge payday, but he will be getting market value for a good but not great swing-man.

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2008, 10:58:26 PM »
If Reggie had a smaller contract and we were not trying to clear cap space I would be all for keeping him.  I'm not in favor of dumping him because I like what he brings to the table as a player and team mate, especially for such a young team.  He is most certainly limited in his skill set and is a 15-20 mpg back-up on a good team, but he has value.  He brings a toughness and energy to the team that is difficult to measure stats wise, and would be a great guy to have busting on Speights every day in practice.  If we trade him and free up cap space I would be OK with it, but if there is any way WG can go instead I'd be a lot happier.

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2008, 11:24:50 PM »
I would absolutely prefer for Willie Green to go first if it's strictly a salary dump. Anyone care to put odds on whether Green will be in a Sixer uni come October??

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2008, 07:56:52 AM »
I feel the same about WG as I do about Evans.  The though of either as a starter makes me cringe, but both are good role players to bring off the bench.  Both fill a role that is otherwise lacking.  I would trade either to free up cap if that is what is needed to land a premiere FA like Brand (neither are as valuable as KK was.)  But I don't mind having both as key role players off the bench.

Green is a solid defender of quicker, physical small guards.  Miller can cover similar players- but he is not long for this team.  I don't see any of the other guards being able to keep up with the quicker sg's in the league (DWade being the prime example.)  Not that WG shuts anyone down, but he's a better defender against quicker guards than Lou, Iguodala or Carney.

Maybe Carney has the quicks to develop into a player who can be a defensive specialist? 

I certainly wouldn't keep WG just for this reason, but if we can't get rid of him I would not mind havingf him as a 15 mpg bench player.  3 M may be a bit high for a streaky shooting, undersized scoring guard, but he is not killing the cap.

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2008, 10:34:05 AM »
According to sixerfans latest update... we're shopping Green hard right now. That makes a lot of sense with Dala shifting to the 2 and Young to the 3. I mean, I just don't see Willie getting the minutes that he has in the past and that could cause a problem.

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2008, 11:31:06 AM »
According to sixerfans latest update... we're shopping Green hard right now. That makes a lot of sense with Dala shifting to the 2 and Young to the 3. I mean, I just don't see Willie getting the minutes that he has in the past and that could cause a problem.
But are there any TAKERS for willie green?

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2008, 11:52:19 AM »
My guess is no which is why he's still a Sixer. I mean, who's going to trade for Willie before July 1st? I would think that teams would try all sorts of other angles first and then maybe in August getting Green. This is the same as going to a bar at 8PM and leaving at 8:15 with the ugliest girl in the joint. Most guys would prefer to stick around until 2:30 when last call is announced before taking some Beast home or better yet... going to a beast's home.

Am I wrong??

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Re: Is Evans a Goner?
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2008, 12:27:07 PM »
My guess is no which is why he's still a Sixer. I mean, who's going to trade for Willie before July 1st? I would think that teams would try all sorts of other angles first and then maybe in August getting Green. This is the same as going to a bar at 8PM and leaving at 8:15 with the ugliest girl in the joint. Most guys would prefer to stick around until 2:30 when last call is announced before taking some Beast home or better yet... going to a beast's home.

Am I wrong??

My guess is that after last call we end up having to take home Willie Green for another season.  I'm fine with that as  long as he agrees to stay in his room and sit on the bench.