Heat going for more ping pong balls with Wade out?

[Reality]

Wade going to rest knee the remainder of the season
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-heat-wade&prov=ap&type=lgns

After Riles announced he will miss a couple games to scout at the Big Dance:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7881782/Heat's-Riley-may-miss-games-for-Big-Dance

[westkoast]

Shawn Marion is as good as gone.

[ziggy]

Wade going to rest knee the remainder of the season
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-heat-wade&prov=ap&type=lgns

After Riles announced he will miss a couple games to scout at the Big Dance:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7881782/Heat's-Riley-may-miss-games-for-Big-Dance

In one regard I can understand their thinking reagrding Wade.  Why risk injury when you are going to lose and lose and lose.  At the same time, the team with the most balls hasn't won the lottery in years, and they still have a 75% chance getting something other than the #1 pick.  It has been a wasted season in Miami.  As far as losing Marion, I agree with the post from Lurker (I think) at the time of the trade.  Marion will opt out, but I believe he will resign with Miami.  He just doesn't have that many other options, and he is looking for a 5-6 year deal.

[westkoast]

Wade going to rest knee the remainder of the season
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-heat-wade&prov=ap&type=lgns

After Riles announced he will miss a couple games to scout at the Big Dance:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7881782/Heat's-Riley-may-miss-games-for-Big-Dance

In one regard I can understand their thinking reagrding Wade.  Why risk injury when you are going to lose and lose and lose.  At the same time, the team with the most balls hasn't won the lottery in years, and they still have a 75% chance getting something other than the #1 pick.  It has been a wasted season in Miami.  As far as losing Marion, I agree with the post from Lurker (I think) at the time of the trade.  Marion will opt out, but I believe he will resign with Miami.  He just doesn't have that many other options, and he is looking for a 5-6 year deal.

You dont think any other team is going to go after him?  In a league that has given Ron Artest, Dennis Rodman, and the likes extra chances.......

[Lurker]

Wade going to rest knee the remainder of the season
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-heat-wade&prov=ap&type=lgns

After Riles announced he will miss a couple games to scout at the Big Dance:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7881782/Heat's-Riley-may-miss-games-for-Big-Dance

In one regard I can understand their thinking reagrding Wade.  Why risk injury when you are going to lose and lose and lose.  At the same time, the team with the most balls hasn't won the lottery in years, and they still have a 75% chance getting something other than the #1 pick.  It has been a wasted season in Miami.  As far as losing Marion, I agree with the post from Lurker (I think) at the time of the trade.  Marion will opt out, but I believe he will resign with Miami.  He just doesn't have that many other options, and he is looking for a 5-6 year deal.

You dont think any other team is going to go after him?  In a league that has given Ron Artest, Dennis Rodman, and the likes extra chances.......

Who can offer him max money?  And with Miami he is making more than max.  And unless I misposted earlier IMO Marion doesn't opt out.  He won't walk away from $17 mil...unless he has a long term contract already locked up.  All he has to do is play 1 more year in Miami and then he can test the open market.  Even then I don't see too many teams rushing to give him max money.

[Derek Bodner]

You dont think any other team is going to go after him?  In a league that has given Ron Artest, Dennis Rodman, and the likes extra chances.......

Only two teams have significant cap room.

[westkoast]

You dont think any other team is going to go after him?  In a league that has given Ron Artest, Dennis Rodman, and the likes extra chances.......

Only two teams have significant cap room.

Right now, yea.  This off-season there could be more.

Miami, Grizz, Clippers if Brand does not re-sign/ magette is leaving as soon as he can, DC if they don't resign Gilbert Arenas I also believe Antwo Jamison's contract is up as well.....

[Derek Bodner]

Miami, Grizz, Clippers if Brand does not re-sign/ magette is leaving as soon as he can, DC if they don't resign Gilbert Arenas I also believe Antwo Jamison's contract is up as well.....

All of those teams won't have cap room until they either:
1) renounce the rights to those free agents
2) Those FA's sign elsewhere.

Do you see the Clippers renouncing Elton Brand's rights to sign Shawn Marion?  I don't.

[westkoast]

Miami, Grizz, Clippers if Brand does not re-sign/ magette is leaving as soon as he can, DC if they don't resign Gilbert Arenas I also believe Antwo Jamison's contract is up as well.....

All of those teams won't have cap room until they either:
1) renounce the rights to those free agents
2) Those FA's sign elsewhere.

Do you see the Clippers renouncing Elton Brand's rights to sign Shawn Marion?  I don't.

No but this doesn't change what I said originally...there are a few teams who have the potential to sign him and would sign him outside of Miami.

[Lurker]

Why would Marion give up $17+ mil to play for less money on the Wizards without Arenas/Jamison or the Clippers without Brand/Magette?

Why would Philly pay the max for Marion when they have Iggy & Young?

And unless the Grizzlies get a new owner before summer why would they take on Marion at the max when they just dumped Gasol for pennies?

[westkoast]

Why would Marion give up $17+ mil to play for less money on the Wizards without Arenas/Jamison or the Clippers without Brand/Magette?

Why would Philly pay the max for Marion when they have Iggy & Young?

And unless the Grizzlies get a new owner before summer why would they take on Marion at the max when they just dumped Gasol for pennies?

Easy Lurker...To me the MAN like he's so wanted for the last 3-4 years.  He feels hes a max player, can be the clear star on the team.

If he wanted to stay on a loaded team with a lot of talent he wouldn't have complained about PHX so much the past few years.

[Derek Bodner]

No but this doesn't change what I said originally...there are a few teams who have the potential to sign him and would sign him outside of Miami.

No it doesn't.  You said "You dont think any other team is going to go after him?".  My response was "no, because there won't be many teams with the ability to".  Just because there's a POSSIBILITY of other teams entering the foray, I don't believe they will considering what they would have to give up.

[westkoast]

No but this doesn't change what I said originally...there are a few teams who have the potential to sign him and would sign him outside of Miami.

No it doesn't.  You said "You dont think any other team is going to go after him?".  My response was "no, because there won't be many teams with the ability to".  Just because there's a POSSIBILITY of other teams entering the foray, I don't believe they will considering what they would have to give up.

And just because theres no teams AT THIS SECOND who cannot persue him, doesn't mean they wont in the off-season.

Exactly what are the Clippers and Wizards giving up if their star players opt out?  Arenas already said he is going to.

[Lurker]

Why would Marion give up $17+ mil to play for less money on the Wizards without Arenas/Jamison or the Clippers without Brand/Magette?

Why would Philly pay the max for Marion when they have Iggy & Young?

And unless the Grizzlies get a new owner before summer why would they take on Marion at the max when they just dumped Gasol for pennies?

Easy Lurker...To me the MAN like he's so wanted for the last 3-4 years.  He feels hes a max player, can be the clear star on the team.

If he wanted to stay on a loaded team with a lot of talent he wouldn't have complained about PHX so much the past few years.

So why would any of those teams pay Marion the max when he has now been proven to NOT be enough of a man to carry a team?  Marion can opt out and hope to hit the jack[pot but it takes two to tango...

[westkoast]

Why would Marion give up $17+ mil to play for less money on the Wizards without Arenas/Jamison or the Clippers without Brand/Magette?

Why would Philly pay the max for Marion when they have Iggy & Young?

And unless the Grizzlies get a new owner before summer why would they take on Marion at the max when they just dumped Gasol for pennies?

Easy Lurker...To me the MAN like he's so wanted for the last 3-4 years.  He feels hes a max player, can be the clear star on the team.

If he wanted to stay on a loaded team with a lot of talent he wouldn't have complained about PHX so much the past few years.

So why would any of those teams pay Marion the max when he has now been proven to NOT be enough of a man to carry a team?  Marion can opt out and hope to hit the jack[pot but it takes two to tango...

Clippers?  They have Chris Kaman under contract for the next few years so Marion is not 100% by himself.  Other then that, I don't know if the Clippers will be able to lure free agents out there aside from being willing to pay someone like Marion the max.

Wash would still have Caron Butler even if Arenas and Jamison left and that would be a similar situation to Wade/Marion.  Granted Caron is not Dwayne Wade but he's a legit all-star when hes healthy IMO.