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Findawg tests the FA waters
« on: June 26, 2007, 05:10:08 PM »
Like his cousin Lurker, Michael Findawg is not sure if he is secure in his Spurs orientation.

Where will Findawg look to add to his 100+ million heist from Cuban?

Could Finley also be eyeing The Laker House?  Wouldn't it be ironic that the Flakes organization including Phil agreed to keep Radmanvich and his 60 million salary when they could potentially have Findawg for a couple mil a year and probably only 2 years length?

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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 07:10:40 PM »
The Lakers are eyeing Bardawg, the greatest 3 point shooter of all time.
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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 07:25:39 PM »
The Lakers are eyeing Bardawg, the greatest 3 point shooter of all time. 
Actually he shot .666 true fg%, which was #1 in the NBA the 2006-7 season.
So maybe they should eye Barrdawg. :D :D  Of course you and W.O.W. would have to make sure he fit into the triangle.  Come to think of it, he would. ;)
How did the Lakers great 3 pt shooters like Radman do this season?
Have another cup.

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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 10:31:22 PM »
The Lakers are eyeing Bardawg, the greatest 3 point shooter of all time. 
Actually he shot .666 true fg%, which was #1 in the NBA the 2006-7 season.
So maybe they should eye Barrdawg. :D :D  Of course you and W.O.W. would have to make sure he fit into the triangle.  Come to think of it, he would. ;)
How did the Lakers great 3 pt shooters like Radman do this season?
Have another cup.

LOL @ 66% being his true FG%.  Yes, it makes sense to see if players fit into a system of the team you are trying to place them on when having  discussions.  If everyone randomly plugged players in like you this board would be fanhome.

I believe Luke Walton led the league in 3 point shooting until he got hurt.

Juice another rotten carrot. 
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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 11:19:53 PM »
LOL @ 66% being his true FG%. 
Juice another rotten carrot. 
It's also known as effective field goal or adjusted field goal percentage.
Player A makes 5 of 10 two pointers for 10 points.  He is shooting 50%.
Player B makes 5 of 10 shots.  3 shots are two pointers for 6 points.  2 are 3 pointers for 6 points.  In non Laker Math Player B made 12 points on 10 shots.  His effective or adjusted or true field goal percentage is about 58%.  Brent Barrdogs smokin 44.6% from treys combined with 40% of Barrys shot attempts being treys raises him way up.  Twist away if you like.  I can't make the percentages any simpler so I'm going to ask zig and/or Jomal to help you from here if you don't, or more likely won't understand.

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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 11:23:55 PM »
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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2007, 12:08:34 AM »
LOL @ 66% being his true FG%. 
Juice another rotten carrot. 
It's also known as effective field goal or adjusted field goal percentage.
Player A makes 5 of 10 two pointers for 10 points.  He is shooting 50%.
Player B makes 5 of 10 shots.  3 shots are two pointers for 6 points.  2 are 3 pointers for 6 points.  In non Laker Math Player B made 12 points on 10 shots.  His effective or adjusted or true field goal percentage is about 58%.  Brent Barrdogs smokin 44.6% from treys combined with 40% of Barrys shot attempts being treys raises him way up.  Twist away if you like.  I can't make the percentages any simpler so I'm going to ask zig and/or Jomal to help you from here if you don't, or more likely won't understand.

Right  :D

And Kobe's passing % is also higher because 5 out of 10 times he passes the ball expecting it back and the other 5 times he passes the ball for them to score.  That is 10 passes in 10 plays which should bring his true passing stats up near Steve Nash.  He is a smoking 100% on potential assists both to other players and to himself.  Twist away if you like  ::)  I can't make the PERCEPTION any simpler so I'm going to ask W.O.W or Randy aka Mr. MIA to help you from here if you can't see it or most likely won't grasp.

Also in...based on Reality's method of calculating non-twisting Spurs math  Tim Duncan actually makes 87% of shots from the field because he gets to the line where he shoots 65%.
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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2007, 01:37:34 AM »
Findawg staying with Spurs for 2008.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2917810

....called his decision a "no-brainer."
"I originally signed for three years, with the last year being an option [year] if I didn't enjoy it here," Finley told ESPN.com. "I like it here."

So why did you say you weren't sure a week ago?  What exactly were you "braining' then?  Wonder if no one offered him any more money.

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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2007, 08:36:05 AM »
The Lakers are eyeing Bardawg, the greatest 3 point shooter of all time. 
Actually he shot .666 true fg%, which was #1 in the NBA the 2006-7 season.
So maybe they should eye Barrdawg. :D :D  Of course you and W.O.W. would have to make sure he fit into the triangle.  Come to think of it, he would. ;)
How did the Lakers great 3 pt shooters like Radman do this season?
Have another cup.

Besides that addled, juice-soaked brain of yours where did these stats come from?

According to 82games.com Barry's effective FG% was 62.7%.  Funny thing is that when you are on the court for limited minutes and your speciality is 3 point shooting then this type of stat is misleading.

Maybe you should look at Mr November's playoff stats...

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FG. FGA FG% eFG% Ast'd Blk'd FTM Pts
 1.1  3.2  .350  .475   100%  0%  0.1  3.1 


IMO much more impressive is Parker's 52.8% effective rate or Nash's 61.3%.  Let Barry play the amount of minutes those guys do and still maintain that high of effective FG%
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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2007, 08:56:08 AM »
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Besides that addled, juice-soaked brain of yours where did these stats come from?

According to 82games.com Barry's effective FG% was 62.7%.  Funny thing is that when you are on the court for limited minutes and your speciality is 3 point shooting then this type of stat is misleading.

Maybe you should look at Mr November's playoff stats...

FG. FGA FG% eFG% Ast'd Blk'd FTM Pts
 1.1  3.2  .350  .475   100%  0%  0.1  3.1 


IMO much more impressive is Parker's 52.8% effective rate or Nash's 61.3%.  Let Barry play the amount of minutes those guys do and still maintain that high of effective FG%
Or Duncan, or Kobe, or Stoudemire, or KG, or Lebron, or Arenas, or Iverson, or Pierce.  Another 10/10 weaker.
.626 not .666 my bad on the typo.  It changes everything. :D  He needs to measure up to Nashs' fulltime 61.3 or he sucks.  And keep Finleys November stats out of this.
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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2007, 09:34:15 AM »
And keep Finleys November stats out of this.

Right.  November stats are sooooo much more impressive than March/April stats.  And regular season definately trumps winning time. 

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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2007, 09:44:41 AM »
And keep Finleys November stats out of this.

Right.  November stats are sooooo much more impressive than March/April stats.  And regular season definately trumps winning time. 

Are you sure you are old enough to have a computer? 
Randy,
Then post March and Aprils stats.  And Finley was much much better then Barry in the 2008 postseason.  Do you want a lollypop for further validation?

Spurs in 3 point FG% in playoff games:

.529 -- D. Brown (21 games, 9-17)
.443 -- V. Del Negro (46 games, 31-70)
.439 -- B. Bowen (100 games, 134-305)
.408 -- M. Finley (33 games, 62-152)
.404 -- R. Horry (64 games, 65-161)
.403 -- B. Barry (55 games, 60-149)
.400 -- D. Ferry (39 games, 32-80)
.394 -- C. Person (34 games, 52-132)
.393 -- W. Anderson (39 games, 11-28)
.387 -- E. Ginobili (90 games, 132-341)

Wow 40.8 to 40.3% Fins is dominating over Barrdog.  Go find WOWkoast and celebrate.

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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2007, 10:47:59 AM »
And keep Finleys November stats out of this.

Right.  November stats are sooooo much more impressive than March/April stats.  And regular season definately trumps winning time. 

Are you sure you are old enough to have a computer? 
Randy,
Then post March and Aprils stats.  And Finley was much much better then Barry in the 2008 postseason.  Do you want a lollypop for further validation?

Spurs in 3 point FG% in playoff games:

.529 -- D. Brown (21 games, 9-17)
.443 -- V. Del Negro (46 games, 31-70)
.439 -- B. Bowen (100 games, 134-305)
.408 -- M. Finley (33 games, 62-152)
.404 -- R. Horry (64 games, 65-161)
.403 -- B. Barry (55 games, 60-149)
.400 -- D. Ferry (39 games, 32-80)
.394 -- C. Person (34 games, 52-132)
.393 -- W. Anderson (39 games, 11-28)
.387 -- E. Ginobili (90 games, 132-341)

Wow 40.8 to 40.3% Fins is dominating over Barrdog.  Go find WOWkoast and celebrate.


Holy Cow!  Devin Brown (who played for the Hornets) shot that well in the Spurs playoffs this year!!!!   And Vinnie should be re-signed to lead the team in its repeat bid.  Why not use some relevant stats....like 2007 playoffs.

Barry   19 games  35.0% FG  30.6% 3PT 
Finley  20 games  41.0% FG  41.9% 3PT


Monthly info...

Barry  (games/fg%/3pt%)
November 15 .526 .526 
December 14 .536 .477 
January    16 .427 .403 
February  10  .493 .415
March      15 .477 .459
April         5  .313 .318

Finley  (games/fg%/3pt%)
November 16  .322 .250 
December 15  .417 .405
January    16  .397 .288
February   10  .420 .333
March      15  .452 .391
April         10  .468 .511


Of course this focuses on the only part of the game that you ever focus on...offensive shooting/scoring.  If you were to evaluate FULL TEAM play then you would know that Finley is the better defender at TWO different positions (SG & SF) and offers more flexibility.  In fact Finley played PF in some small ball situations...somthing that Barry could never do.  And of course that leads to your other consistant argument - that the Spurs should field a team of 15 7 footers that would dominate by scoring layups every time down the court.
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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2007, 11:35:14 AM »
Why are Brent Barry's playoff stats being compared to Finley's when he played for the Spurs for a longer period of time in the playoffs?

You know what that tells me?  There is a specific reason why Finley has played just as many minutes in one playoff season then Barry has in a few for the Spurs.
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Re: Findawg tests the FA waters
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2007, 08:35:46 PM »
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