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Re: #6-7-8 in West gets bunched
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2007, 12:01:24 PM »
Yes that is the real Spurs consensus, that the front office has failed to address the athletic 3 spot.  
 Actually REAL Spurs fans know that Bowen has been the SF starter.  Spin away Reality but when it comes to speaking for real Spurs fans your track record leaves a lot to be desired.
 Wow that's deep.  Bowen has been the SF starter.  When have i ever disputed that?
So what do you want to call Bob Horry-Devin Brown and Steven Jackson-Malik?
Call them 4s, call them GFs, call them FGs, whatever.
Real Spurs fans know these guys totally contributed in 2003 and 2005.
Diminish away all you want.

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As far as addressing the issue...you just list the entire litany of players they have tried to groom as a replacement for Bruce.  And obviously they are all now superstars for their respective teams...so Pop needs to take lessons from some other GM.  Maybe Ainge or Thomas could give him lessons on how to build a championship team.  
 
The Scola thing has been a real bust.  In chasing Jason Kidd they passed on Josh Howard.  Maybe Pop could take some lessens from Avery J and the Mavs GM.  Lord knows he did last year. :D

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Re: #6-7-8 in West gets bunched
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2007, 12:08:27 PM »
Bowen still is the best defender at the 3 but he is slowly becoming...well slower then the talent coming in.  Obviously that is totally understandable. The talent is always going to be young and Bowen is always going to age.

And the Spurs acknowledge that.  They have tried various players as eventual replacements.  Either they don't stick around or can't outplay Bowen.  Either way Pop isn't going to put a lesser player on the court.  James White (see Reality's jock sniffing thread earlier) is the latest in that line.
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Re: #6-7-8 in West gets bunched
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2007, 12:09:41 PM »
Not that I need to rain in on your 'im a bigger fan then you are life long spurs fan lurker' parade but....

In 2003 there was no reason for them to upgrade at the 3 and get Josh Howard because Bowen was in top form then.  On top of it, knowing the Spurs and Pop they are going to play the great defender over a kid (at the time) who had potential to be a solid second/third option scorer on a good squad.

The same thing happened to Devin Brown, he was a scorer but he wasn't the defender the Spurs needed to control the tempo of games.
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Re: #6-7-8 in West gets bunched
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2007, 12:13:35 PM »
Yes that is the real Spurs consensus, that the front office has failed to address the athletic 3 spot.  
 Actually REAL Spurs fans know that Bowen has been the SF starter.  Spin away Reality but when it comes to speaking for real Spurs fans your track record leaves a lot to be desired.
 Wow that's deep.  Bowen has been the SF starter.  When have i ever disputed that?
So what do you want to call Bob Horry-Devin Brown and Steven Jackson-Malik?
Call them 4s, call them GFs, call them FGs, whatever.
Real Spurs fans know these guys totally contributed in 2003 and 2005.
Diminish away all you want.


Yes.  They CONTRIBUTED.  They WERE ROLE PLAYERS; NOT STARTERS.  That doesn't diminish their contributions it just realizes that they wouldn'ty have been as successful if they played more minutes and a lesser player took their roles.

Horry & Malik don't belong in this conversation about athletic swing players.  Jackson is such an outstanding player that he keeps switching teams.  Devin Brown wasn't even invited back to camp after accepting more money to play elsewhere.  These are the guys you want in place of Bowen?????

And that makes you a REAL Spursie.    ::)


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As far as addressing the issue...you just list the entire litany of players they have tried to groom as a replacement for Bruce.  And obviously they are all now superstars for their respective teams...so Pop needs to take lessons from some other GM.  Maybe Ainge or Thomas could give him lessons on how to build a championship team.  
 
The Scola thing has been a real bust.  In chasing Jason Kidd they passed on Josh Howard.  Maybe Pop could take some lessens from Avery J and the Mavs GM.  Lord knows he did last year. :D

Scola...as stated in the article that you posted...plays THE SAME POSITION AS DUNCAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So bench Duncan and play Scola.  Basketball IQ at its zenith.
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Re: #6-7-8 in West gets bunched
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2007, 12:49:48 PM »
  James White (see Reality's jock sniffing thread earlier) is the latest in that line. 
Noo noo you are right.  White should be nailed to the bench the entire year while Fins etc are going 1-10 in the 1st 2/3rds of the season.
White is not ready to play in an NBA game.

Oh wait, he has played a couple times and looks like he belongs and gained in game experience.
Including a one handed oop jam from the Fabmeister.

Can't have that in lurker world. :P

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Re: #6-7-8 in West gets bunched
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2007, 01:22:16 PM »
Yes that is the real Spurs consensus, that the front office has failed to address the athletic 3 spot.  
 Actually REAL Spurs fans know that Bowen has been the SF starter.  Spin away Reality but when it comes to speaking for real Spurs fans your track record leaves a lot to be desired.
 Wow that's deep.  Bowen has been the SF starter.  When have i ever disputed that?
So what do you want to call Bob Horry-Devin Brown and Steven Jackson-Malik?
Call them 4s, call them GFs, call them FGs, whatever.
Real Spurs fans know these guys totally contributed in 2003 and 2005.
Diminish away all you want.


Yes.  They CONTRIBUTED.  They WERE ROLE PLAYERS; NOT STARTERS.  That doesn't diminish their contributions it just realizes that they wouldn'ty have been as successful if they played more minutes and a lesser player took their roles.

Horry & Malik don't belong in this conversation about athletic swing players.  Jackson is such an outstanding player that he keeps switching teams.  Devin Brown wasn't even invited back to camp after accepting more money to play elsewhere.  These are the guys you want in place of Bowen?????

And that makes you a REAL Spursie.    ::)
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So Jackson left.  Does that diminish his role in 2003? 
So Nazr left.  Does that diminish his role in 2005?
Bob Horry 27 minutes in 2005 probably aint gonna be the same in 2007.  If Horry ressurects, great.   
Suggest that another 2003 Jackson type or 2005 Nazr type would not help?  Smell the coffee.  I think Elson can role.
Yeah, in 2003 and 2005 I would rather have these guys playing in addition to Bowen playing.
As opposed to Mike Finley playing power forward, or even SF.  Fins did fine as SG vs Dallas but can't guard Dirk or Howard.  Who can?