X-Men3: The Last Stand

[Skandery]

I thought Angel sucked and they totally wasted the Sentinel element. And you're telling me that they couldn't find another couple of "cure" bullets to give to the Pheonix? There always a bunch of weak "outs" in every movie.

I didn't think Angel sucked so much as he was barely used in the movie.  Had they taken the time to actually develop the character, I think the actor would've done an alright job.  

They've been royally screwing the Sentinel storyline long before this movie.  First by killing off Henry Peter Guyrich (the political liaison between Trask and the Gov't-Sen. Kelly) and then by killing off Senator Kelly himself.  Then in the third installment they introduce Trask (the scientist responsible for inventing Sentinels) as some kind of Homeland Security official and change his ethnicity.  Having the X-Men fight the Sentinel in the Danger Room is what they've done the most right concerning the Sentinels.      

And about Phoenix, what good are "cure" bullets gonna do when she can vaporize them midflight?

[Ted]

SPOILER ALERT!!

The movie was too short. Why pare it down to 101 minutes when you can add 20 and round out some story lines. I was disappointed overall. There were some cool parts, but they leave too much hanging. The anti-mutant mutant kid was an interesting story, as was the angel kid. And I think they could have done even more with Phoenix.

The effects were awesome, and the scene where Wolverine keeps walking toward the Phoenix as his flesh is being vaporized was pretty awesome. And how the heck is Magneto not in jail rather than playing chess in the last scene.

[Reality]

Did Jean/Phoenix "let" Wolverine stab her?

Because I don't see any other way.  How could he overcome her level 5 mutantness?   Yes I know his bones are made of some non meltable stuff but we are talking MVP Jean.  She has all kinds of offense.

[WayOutWest]

Did Jean/Phoenix "let" Wolverine stab her?

Because I don't see any other way.  How could he overcome her level 5 mutantness?   Yes I know his bones are made of some non meltable stuff but we are talking MVP Jean.  She has all kinds of offense.

It's cause her DraManu-ess appeared and she choked.

Actually the Pheonix was temporarilly shut down by Jean allowed Wolvy to kill her.  Just like Artest shutdown DraManu and allowed the Kings to kill the Spurs.  It wasn't like when DraManu just plain old disappeared and let the Mavs kill the Spurs.  Jean/Artest actually shutdown the Phx/Drama.

[Reality]

Just like Artest shutdown DraManu and allowed the Kings to kill the Spurs.  It wasn't like when DraManu just plain old disappeared and let the Mavs kill the Spurs.  Jean/Artest actually shutdown the Phx/Drama.

Just like Jean will rise again for X4 we can look for Manu to rise to Title 4 next year for the Spurs. :up:  

[SPURSX3]

There is not suppossed to be an "X4"  The X movies were only setup for a trilogy.  I thought it was an OK movie, but in my opinion this was the weakest of the three movies.  Apperently when the director left to take over the Superman Returns film he took A LO of the production crew including the writers.  IMO the movie had some bad editing in it, young magneto, Wolverine being ripped by Phoenix in the final battle, etc.  The script and character use for the movie was also odd - they re-wrote characters - for instance, Juggernaut was not a mutant, they rewrote him as a mutant for this movie which also ties into the "ultimate" version of Juggernaut - this version is also not Xaviers brother - which is why there was no interaction between them when Xavier went to Jeans house (WHY CHANGE THIS?  It would have been a cool part of the story.)  Calisto vs Storm was a good add to the film, but they gave Calisto powers the real character didnt have.  Calisto cannot "sense" mutants or thier power - Caliban could - so why not leave Calisto as she was meant to be (tactical mind) and have Caliban as her mutant hound??

They did not get to bring Gambit in - which would have been a cameo - but still it would have been cool to see him on the screen.  they did make up characters for this film - I agree - they did no need to do that.  

I dont know, maybe I expected more for the "last stand"  With the series more than likely ending on this note, there will more than likely be no introduction of Apocalypse - hence no "Age of Apocalypse"  Which IMO would be the best damn X mutant film they could ever do.  oh well, I can wait for the dvd before I see this one again.

By the way, was anybody else a bit surprised to see Nick Cage playing Johnny Blaze in "Ghost Rider" as I was?

[westkoast]

There is not suppossed to be an "X4"  The X movies were only setup for a trilogy.  I thought it was an OK movie, but in my opinion this was the weakest of the three movies.  Apperently when the director left to take over the Superman Returns film he took A LO of the production crew including the writers.  IMO the movie had some bad editing in it, young magneto, Wolverine being ripped by Phoenix in the final battle, etc.  The script and character use for the movie was also odd - they re-wrote characters - for instance, Juggernaut was not a mutant, they rewrote him as a mutant for this movie which also ties into the "ultimate" version of Juggernaut - this version is also not Xaviers brother - which is why there was no interaction between them when Xavier went to Jeans house (WHY CHANGE THIS?  It would have been a cool part of the story.)  Calisto vs Storm was a good add to the film, but they gave Calisto powers the real character didnt have.  Calisto cannot "sense" mutants or thier power - Caliban could - so why not leave Calisto as she was meant to be (tactical mind) and have Caliban as her mutant hound??

They did not get to bring Gambit in - which would have been a cameo - but still it would have been cool to see him on the screen.  they did make up characters for this film - I agree - they did no need to do that.  

I dont know, maybe I expected more for the "last stand"  With the series more than likely ending on this note, there will more than likely be no introduction of Apocalypse - hence no "Age of Apocalypse"  Which IMO would be the best damn X mutant film they could ever do.  oh well, I can wait for the dvd before I see this one again.

By the way, was anybody else a bit surprised to see Nick Cage playing Johnny Blaze in "Ghost Rider" as I was?

If by suprised you mean disapointed than yea!  I was like "YEAH Ghostrider!!" only to see Nick Cage playing the main role.  To me he just doesn't fit.  Am I alone on that one?    I have no problem with Nick Cage, I actually enjoy alot of the movies he does (yes, even Con Air) but I dunno, something about him being ghostrider.....

There has to be an X4 or a mini series or SOMETHING.  You cannot have that tease at the end of the credit for there to be nothing.  Team that up with the fact it had a mega opening weekend and it is almost certain they will do something.  Xmen was suppose to be a triology but if they will re-write characters, add powers, and include non-existant mutants into the mix it is not a stretch to see them make another movie.

[Ted]

By the way, what happened to Nightcrawler? I loved that guy in X2. It was disappointing. The Beast was my favorite new addition. And what about Rogue? Does she go for the cure in the comic? And one other question . . . did that chess piece really move?

[WayOutWest]

And one other question . . . did that chess piece really move?

Yes, I thought that was an awesome ending.  That was until I saw the actual ending of the movie after all the credits.  Both endings were great and got applause from the audience where I saw the movie.

Where have you been Ted?

[SPURSX3]

There is not suppossed to be an "X4"  The X movies were only setup for a trilogy.  I thought it was an OK movie, but in my opinion this was the weakest of the three movies.  Apperently when the director left to take over the Superman Returns film he took A LO of the production crew including the writers.  IMO the movie had some bad editing in it, young magneto, Wolverine being ripped by Phoenix in the final battle, etc.  The script and character use for the movie was also odd - they re-wrote characters - for instance, Juggernaut was not a mutant, they rewrote him as a mutant for this movie which also ties into the "ultimate" version of Juggernaut - this version is also not Xaviers brother - which is why there was no interaction between them when Xavier went to Jeans house (WHY CHANGE THIS?  It would have been a cool part of the story.)  Calisto vs Storm was a good add to the film, but they gave Calisto powers the real character didnt have.  Calisto cannot "sense" mutants or thier power - Caliban could - so why not leave Calisto as she was meant to be (tactical mind) and have Caliban as her mutant hound??

They did not get to bring Gambit in - which would have been a cameo - but still it would have been cool to see him on the screen.  they did make up characters for this film - I agree - they did no need to do that. 

I dont know, maybe I expected more for the "last stand"  With the series more than likely ending on this note, there will more than likely be no introduction of Apocalypse - hence no "Age of Apocalypse"  Which IMO would be the best damn X mutant film they could ever do.  oh well, I can wait for the dvd before I see this one again.

By the way, was anybody else a bit surprised to see Nick Cage playing Johnny Blaze in "Ghost Rider" as I was?

If by suprised you mean disapointed than yea!  I was like "YEAH Ghostrider!!" only to see Nick Cage playing the main role.  To me he just doesn't fit.  Am I alone on that one?    I have no problem with Nick Cage, I actually enjoy alot of the movies he does (yes, even Con Air) but I dunno, something about him being ghostrider.....

There has to be an X4 or a mini series or SOMETHING.  You cannot have that tease at the end of the credit for there to be nothing.  Team that up with the fact it had a mega opening weekend and it is almost certain they will do something.  Xmen was suppose to be a triology but if they will re-write characters, add powers, and include non-existant mutants into the mix it is not a stretch to see them make another movie.

There is not suppossed to be an X4, the crew signed on for a three movie deal.  However, there are suppossed to be spin offs.  "Wolverine", "Magneto", "Emma Frost" and and movie about the kids at Xaviers School for Gifted Youngsters - bt they will not be "x-men."


As for Nightcrawler, that was because Alan Cumming did not sign on to do Nightcrawler.  They do have nightcrawler in the X3 game.


as for Cage, I think he fits more as Ghost Rider than he ever would have playing Superman, which he was going to do before they finalized the script and wanted the younger kid to play the man of steel.

[SPURSX3]

By the way, what happened to Nightcrawler? I loved that guy in X2. It was disappointing. The Beast was my favorite new addition. And what about Rogue? Does she go for the cure in the comic? And one other question . . . did that chess piece really move?

like i said ted they re-wrote the stories, rodue does not go for the cure i the comics, unless they recently did an "ultimate" version of this she is not suppossed to have gone for the cure...

[Ted]

like i said ted they re-wrote the stories, rodue does not go for the cure i the comics, unless they recently did an "ultimate" version of this she is not suppossed to have gone for the cure...

At one point, I found myself asking why they even had Rogue in the movie? It seemed like throughout the whole thing, they just couldn't figure out how to use her. She could've been used much more, IMO.

[Ted]

Where have you been Ted?

I've been struggling . . .

Started a new business in January, and it's hard as hell. I'm paying the bills and everything, but after about five months of slogging through 50-60 hour weeks, I'm starting to wonder if I'm an entrepreneur at heart.

We did have a good week this week, so I feel a little better. But I'm keeping my eyes open. I applied at the company that makes the Little Giant ladders and had a good interview and they expressed some interest . . . we'll see.

Short answer . . . been trying to figure out this career merde.

[WayOutWest]

Where have you been Ted?

I've been struggling . . .

Started a new business in January, and it's hard as hell. I'm paying the bills and everything, but after about five months of slogging through 50-60 hour weeks, I'm starting to wonder if I'm an entrepreneur at heart.

We did have a good week this week, so I feel a little better. But I'm keeping my eyes open. I applied at the company that makes the Little Giant ladders and had a good interview and they expressed some interest . . . we'll see.

Short answer . . . been trying to figure out this career merde.

Man have I been there.  I was in buisness for myself for over 4 years and I had plenty of highs and lows.  What type of buisness are you running?

[Ted]

Man have I been there.  I was in buisness for myself for over 4 years and I had plenty of highs and lows.  What type of buisness are you running?

Publishing. Published our first book in January and are coming out with a few more in the coming weeks.

I like publishing all right; I think the subject matter we're doing is the part that's bugging me. I'm not exactly an unbeliever when it comes to complementary medicine, but I'm no disciple either.
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We got into business with the idea of helping people research, write, and publish their own family histories, and there's a good market for that; but the winds of "opportunity" have taken us in other directions.