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« on: April 15, 2006, 11:02:55 AM »
Artest to wear extra padding on injured thumb
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SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Kings forward Ron Artest is expected to play with extra padding on his injured right thumb for the rest of the season.

Artest hurt his thumb in the third quarter of Sacramento's 123-110 loss to Phoenix on Tuesday night, but kept playing. He underwent an MRI exam on the thumb Thursday before the club departed for a game in Denver on Saturday.

The exam revealed an aggravation of an injury that wasn't properly repaired during his college days at St. John's. Artest sat out practice Thursday.

Artest is averaging 17.6 points, 5.2 rebounds, 4.1 assists and 2.1 steals with the Kings, who are 23-14 since acquiring the former All-Star in a trade with Indiana on Jan. 26.  Jomal some Laker Math should convince you this in no way, shape or form has contributed to the Kings success.

 

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2006, 11:17:54 AM »
A team with Mike Bibby, SAR, Brad Miller and Peja (and now Artest) -- then throw in some role players like Bonzi Wells, Kenny Thomas, and a couple of young shooting guards showing a little promise -- the BIGGER question is why hasn't this team been playing MUCH better all year long?  

Is Bibby one of the top 5 PG's in the league?  
Peja is definately one of the better shooters in the league.
Brad Miller is definately on the top 5 center list, IMO.
SAR is definately a gifted rebounder/scorer.

This team has underachieved all year long -- and you don't have to look much farther than their coach to see where to place the blame (although I'd say the players deserve their fair share as well).  

This team has wayyy too much talent to barely be squeeking into the playoffs -- but are they going to go far?  Nope!  The chemistry problems far outweigh their talent level!

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2006, 07:08:44 PM »
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A team with Mike Bibby, SAR, Brad Miller and Peja (and now Artest) -- then throw in some role players like Bonzi Wells, Kenny Thomas, and a couple of young shooting guards showing a little promise -- the BIGGER question is why hasn't this team been playing MUCH better all year long?  

Is Bibby one of the top 5 PG's in the league?  
Peja is definately one of the better shooters in the league.
Brad Miller is definately on the top 5 center list, IMO.
SAR is definately a gifted rebounder/scorer.

This team has underachieved all year long -- and you don't have to look much farther than their coach to see where to place the blame (although I'd say the players deserve their fair share as well).  

This team has wayyy too much talent to barely be squeeking into the playoffs -- but are they going to go far?  Nope!  The chemistry problems far outweigh their talent level!
FYI Randolf,

You've strayed waaay beyound the boundries of a box score, do not expect much in return from the "Laker" math challenged.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2006, 07:17:28 PM »
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This team has wayyy too much talent to barely be squeeking into the playoffs -- but are they going to go far?  Nope!  The chemistry problems far outweigh their talent level!
"to barely be squeeking into the playoffs"

Contraire W.O.W.

Randy,
are you saying, as you post exactly does, that the Kings are going into the playoffs. :eek2:  
That would mean your faith in Kobadiah, #8, The Ocho, The MVP is in question.
That he will fail to will the team to victory vs Phx tommorow and New Oklahoma on Tuesday? :eek2:  :eek2:

Tell me how somehow i have misread your post.
One of those "Show me where i ever said." type backpedals.

Oh my!  Laker House meeting ASAP!

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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2006, 07:25:36 PM »
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This team has wayyy too much talent to barely be squeeking into the playoffs -- but are they going to go far?  Nope!  The chemistry problems far outweigh their talent level!
"to barely be squeeking into the playoffs"

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Randy,
are you saying, as you post exactly does, that the Kings are going into the playoffs. :eek2:  
That would mean your faith in Kobadiah, #8, The Ocho, The MVP is in question.
That he will fail to will the team to victory vs Phx tommorow and New Oklahoma on Tuesday? :eek2:  :eek2:

Tell me how somehow i have misread your post.
One of those "Show me where i ever said." type backpedals.

Oh my!  Laker House meeting ASAP!
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This team has wayyy too much talent to barely be squeeking into the playoffs -- but are they going to go far?  Nope!  The chemistry problems far outweigh their talent level!
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This team has wayyy too much talent to barely be squeeking into the playoffs
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This team has wayyy too much talent
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2006, 09:12:45 PM »
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This team has wayyy too much talent to barely be squeeking into the playoffs -- but are they going to go far?  Nope!  The chemistry problems far outweigh their talent level!
"to barely be squeeking into the playoffs"

Contraire W.O.W.

Randy,
are you saying, as you post exactly does, that the Kings are going into the playoffs. :eek2:  
That would mean your faith in Kobadiah, #8, The Ocho, The MVP is in question.
That he will fail to will the team to victory vs Phx tommorow and New Oklahoma on Tuesday? :eek2:  :eek2:

Tell me how somehow i have misread your post.
One of those "Show me where i ever said." type backpedals.

Oh my!  Laker House meeting ASAP!
Reality,

You need to engage your brain every now and then.

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are you saying, as you post exactly does, that the Kings are going into the playoffs. That would mean your faith in Kobadiah, #8, The Ocho, The MVP is in question.

Umm, at this point, the Lakers are 7th in the Western Conference and the Kings are 8th.  So, once again, your comments make ZERO sense!

Bandwagon fans!!!   :rolleyes:  :wacko:  

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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2006, 07:21:11 PM »
Randolph,

It does appear i jumped the gun.  Perhaps i was assuming Phoenix would hand another punking to the Lakers today.  But lo and behold, Phx had clinched their seed and thus held out Nash and Raja Bell.  Limiting the opponents top shooter to 11-28 fgs will get you a win in most games.  But we are talking Kobadiah Springfield on national T.V.
Enter 23 FTAs and it's a Laker win. :rofl:

Okay, so Lakers are #7 and Kings are #8 at present.
Could Lakers take out New Oklahoma on Wednesday for the clinch of #7?

Back to the threads topic, how about that Ron ArTesty performance vs Denver which he self summarized:  "I figure I have to do something else now. Rebound, play defense, get some assists," Artest said. "I'm going to take shots, but they are going to fall in crunch time. They may not fall as much as they used to, but they are going to fall, so I'm not going to be shy about shooting."

Even though he needed extra padding on his aching thumb, Artest throttled 'Melo so thoroughly that Nuggets coach George Karl benched his star along with point guard Andre Miller in the fourth quarter.

"I didn't think we had a chance to win with or without them," Karl said.
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2006, 09:32:02 PM »
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It does appear i jumped the gun. Perhaps i was assuming Phoenix would hand another punking to the Lakers today. But lo and behold, Phx had clinched their seed and thus held out Nash and Raja Bell. Limiting the opponents top shooter to 11-28 fgs will get you a win in most games. But we are talking Kobadiah Springfield on national T.V.
Enter 23 FTAs and it's a Laker win.

Hmm, more of just reading the box score and not even watching the game, huh, Reality?  

Well, if you had watched the game, what you would have seen is the Suns trying to play the Lakers with 3 men on the court.  They were miserably shorthanded without Steve Nash, Raja Bell and Kurt Thomas -- and it showed.  Kobe attacked the basket and without Bell there wasn't anyone who could even hope to slow him down.  Also, the fastbreak wasn't there for the Suns without Nash and the Lakers outrebounded the Suns by 13 -- adding the Lakers shot better from the field, the arch and the freethrow line, had more assists, fewer turnovers and more steals, I don't see how you could have expected the Suns to not lose by 20 points.

The Suns decided to play this game without some key players -- they don't need the win and they want to give Nash and Bell a little rest.  Personally, I would like to see todays game with both full squads because I'd rather see a great game than a Lakers win.

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Enter 23 FTAs and it's a Laker win

Does this ever get old for you?  Kobe shoots 23 and it's a conspiracy -- he shoots 5 and it's justice.  Oh, and Manu shoots 9 in the last 2 1/2 minutes of a game and that's just great basketball.  

You're still pathetic!  

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It does appear i jumped the gun. Perhaps i was assuming Phoenix would hand another punking to the Lakers today.

Actually, even if you HAD been assuming the Suns would beat the Lakers, it still shows that you are clueless -- the Lakers would have had to lose the next two games and the Jazz would have had to beat the Mavs and the Spurs in order for the Lakers to not make the playoffs.  I guess it was "possible" but not probable!

Nice way of trying to deflect your ineptness!

 

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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2006, 10:27:39 PM »
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Enter 23 FTAs and it's a Laker win

Does this ever get old for you?  Kobe shoots 23 and it's a conspiracy -- he shoots 5 and it's justice.  Oh, and Manu shoots 9 in the last 2 1/2 minutes of a game and that's just great basketball.  

You're still pathetic!  

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It does appear i jumped the gun. Perhaps i was assuming Phoenix would hand another punking to the Lakers today.

Actually, even if you HAD been assuming the Suns would beat the Lakers, it still shows that you are clueless -- the Lakers would have had to lose the next two games and the Jazz would have had to beat the Mavs and the Spurs in order for the Lakers to not make the playoffs.  I guess it was "possible" but not probable!

Nice way of trying to deflect your ineptness!
Randoph,

It's true, I missed the vaunted Lakers-Phx matchup.  I spent the day in the mountains instead. :rofl:  Fresh air and superb creation.  

No Randoph i did not think Utah would leapfrog Kobe.  However i did have misplaced the Lakers and Kings #7 and #8 seedings, which has flip flopped the past 2 weeks.  In fact the Kings can still grab #7 should Koubee falter vs New Oklahoma.  I think he will come thru and the Lakers will win and be #7.

Yes Kobe doesnt ever go to the line too much does he?  Stunningly he has dropped all the way to #5 before todays game.  That must have something to do with Ron Artests thumb.

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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2006, 10:37:31 PM »
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Well, if you had watched the game, what you would have seen is the Suns trying to play the Lakers with 3 men on the court.  They were miserably shorthanded without Steve Nash, Raja Bell and Kurt Thomas -- and it showed.  Kobe attacked the basket and without Bell there wasn't anyone who could even hope to slow him down.
Ahh,
That explains the 11-28. :ding:  

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2006, 08:39:10 AM »
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In fact the Kings can still grab #7 should Koubee falter vs New Oklahoma. I think he will come thru and the Lakers will win and be #7.

Actually, the best the Kings can do now is tie the Lakers for the #7 spot -- it's pretty tough when a team has to want someone else to beat a team in front of them because they haven't taken care of business, huh?

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2006, 09:25:56 AM »
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In fact the Kings can still grab #7 should Koubee falter vs New Oklahoma. I think he will come thru and the Lakers will win and be #7.

Actually, the best the Kings can do now is tie the Lakers for the #7 spot -- it's pretty tough when a team has to want someone else to beat a team in front of them because they haven't taken care of business, huh?
Yes Randy,

That is why they have what's called a t-i-e-b-r-e-a-k-e-r.
You see, teams don't begin the playoffs both being in the #7 position.

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2006, 09:27:54 AM »
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Well, if you had watched the game, what you would have seen is the Suns trying to play the Lakers with 3 men on the court.  They were miserably shorthanded without Steve Nash, Raja Bell and Kurt Thomas -- and it showed.  Kobe attacked the basket and without Bell there wasn't anyone who could even hope to slow him down.
So gamewatching Randy who posted the above,

Do indeed tell us how Kobe shot 11-28.

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2006, 11:00:12 AM »
Simple sac-town logic will tell you that this means the Kings are going to be one of the three best teams in this entire league next year.  If Artest played this whole year with a bad thumb imagine what he can do next year when they fix it right this time.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2006, 12:20:50 PM »
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This team has underachieved all year long -- and you don't have to look much farther than their coach to see where to place the blame (although I'd say the players deserve their fair share as well). 

I heard a very good explanation for why this talented team has struggled so much this year.

Franklin Edwards, an ex-King, gave this reason: The Kings had quite a roster change-over this season. Adelman has not been given an extention to coach beyond this year. As a result, you have the awkward combination of players possibly tuning out a lame-duck coach, and players not used to, or quite comfortable with, playing in Adelman's offensive system yet. So when things start to unravel, instead of keeping with the system and continuing to pass the ball and exploit the open man, they tend to fall back into their failsafe mode they are used to, which is more post up and one-on-one action.

While the arrival of Artest has greatly improved the defense (even Bibby is getting singled out for his defensive play of late!!), and his leadership filled a huge void with the team, he also is not yet comfortable with this offense, and Adelman has asked him to initiate it at times.

The King's offensive system, which they call the Princeton offense for assistent coach Pete Carill, takes some getting used to by players more comfortable playing in a typically structured NBA style of offense. Eventually, players tend to like it, as they each are going to get open looks at some point. But it also takes time to get comfortable with it, and players like Bonzi Wells, Sharif Abdur-Rahim, and Ron Artest have really only played in it for much less then a full season, due to injury or late season trades. They all agree it works great when they all buy into it and their success of late bears that out. But they also do not completely trust it if things go south, and they still tend to bail when that happens, as the second half of the Suns game and the entire Mavericks game showed.

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This team has wayyy too much talent to barely be squeeking into the playoffs -- but are they going to go far?  Nope!  The chemistry problems far outweigh their talent level!

This is a typical rallying cry that others vent for talented teams not fulfilling their promise, but I have not seen any chemistry problems exhibited by King's players. While it certainly is true all these new teammates took a while to mesh with and understand their teammates, they never lacked having a "team" attitude. If the reference were to Adelman's lame-duck status, it hits closer to home. Subconsciously, Adelman's unknown future with the team may have a bigger impact on the players then anyone with the team wants to admit.

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A team with Mike Bibby, SAR, Brad Miller and Peja (and now Artest) -- then throw in some role players like Bonzi Wells, Kenny Thomas, and a couple of young shooting guards showing a little promise -- the BIGGER question is why hasn't this team been playing MUCH better all year long? 

Is Bibby one of the top 5 PG's in the league? 
Peja is definately one of the better shooters in the league.
Brad Miller is definately on the top 5 center list, IMO.
SAR is definately a gifted rebounder/scorer.

Artest is truly a top five defender in the League, and Bibby, while not 'thinking' clearly at all times on the court, is a terrific point guard none the less. Miller has his moments as well, but oddly disappears from any purpose on the court when you need him most. Peja is possibly the best shooter in the League, but I have to say he lacks enough heart to ever warrant consideration as a top player, and he was clearly unmotivated playing for the Kings before the trade. SAR's move to the bench was as important as anything that turned this team around, because Thomas was pouting in that role, and speaking of Thomas, if he were only an inch or two taller, the Kings would be extremely threatening. As it is.......

The emergence of Kevin Martin (thanks to Pete Carill and Ron Artest, in particular), has been another reason for the King's improvement. The Kings rarely lost after this kid started to play well, and that still holds true up to now. Both he and 'Cisco Garcia are really atheletic players on a team with no other help in that regard. But both got hurt and a little air was let out of the team because of it. Now, both are getting healthy, so it adds some additional intrique to how effective their playoff run will be.

BTW, Artest did it again. After the Hornet win put them in the playoffs, Ron "guaranteed" three times, that the Kings would be victorious in the first round.

Oh, brother!!