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Offline Skandery

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Its Time for everyone's Dirk Nowitzki Update
« on: January 04, 2006, 02:21:42 PM »
Well....during the time that our favorite mercurial Laker 2 guard has decided to taking elbows to people's faces on a nightly basis and subsequently getting himself tossed for two games leaving his team to suffer back to back losses to that powerhouse of a team Utah.

Nowitzki has averaged 25.4 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 4.0 apg, 1 3PM at 42%, and 8.4 trips to the line at a perfecto 100% over the last five games.  Under the strong play of their leader, Dallas has won 5 out of the last 6 games and 8 out of the last 10 games.  He just recently broke Steve Nash's franchise record for most consecutive free throws (49) made.

 
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2006, 03:41:34 PM »
:rofl:

Anyone who doesn't think Kobe did not have a better last week then Dirk is:  "missing at least one lobe of their brain, clearly in the last stages og dimentia, or maybe just an idiot."

You're in the last stages og dimentia. :rolleyes:
 
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2006, 03:57:07 PM »
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Well....during the time that our favorite mercurial Laker 2 guard has decided to taking elbows to people's faces on a nightly basis and subsequently getting himself tossed for two games leaving his team to suffer back to back losses to that powerhouse of a team Utah.

Nowitzki has averaged 25.4 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 4.0 apg, 1 3PM at 42%, and 8.4 trips to the line at a perfecto 100% over the last five games.  Under the strong play of their leader, Dallas has won 5 out of the last 6 games and 8 out of the last 10 games.  He just recently broke Steve Nash's franchise record for most consecutive free throws (49) made.
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I guess you have to wait for Kobe to be suspended before you even THINK about comparing irk No-D-ski to him!  :rofl:  
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2006, 03:58:54 PM »
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Anyone who doesn't think Kobe did not have a better last week then Dirk........
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What?  :crazy: I need one of those Star Trek universal translators to figure out what you actually mean.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2006, 04:06:08 PM »
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What?  :crazy: I need one of those Star Trek universal translators to figure out what you actually mean.
I'll get you one.  Because besides comparing Kobme to Dirk, he will be facing a couple more truly top 5-10ers coming up in A.I. Friday and Lebron shortly.

Of course Kobme has already schooled KG twice this year.  And A Stoudamire. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2006, 04:13:32 PM »
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I guess you have to wait for Kobe to be suspended before you even THINK about comparing irk No-D-ski to him! 

WOW-y,

In the interest of the on-going saga of whether Dirk is a Top 5 NBA player, I'll gladly continue providing updates regardless of whether Kobe's is getting himself suspended or not.  
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2006, 04:28:22 PM »
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I guess you have to wait for Kobe to be suspended before you even THINK about comparing irk No-D-ski to him! 

WOW-y,

In the interest of the on-going saga of whether Dirk is a Top 5 NBA player, I'll gladly continue providing updates regardless of whether Kobe's is getting himself suspended or not.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2006, 04:56:05 PM »
Has the league become so watered down that a top 5 player now only has to play on one end of the floor?
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2006, 05:42:13 PM »
My point exactly 'Koast, my point exactly
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2006, 05:50:26 PM »
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Has the league become so watered down that a top 5 player now only has to play on one end of the floor?
As opposed to the 2 ends Charles Barkley used to play?
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2006, 06:37:49 PM »
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Has the league become so watered down that a top 5 player now only has to play on one end of the floor?
As opposed to the 2 ends Charles Barkley used to play?
Was charles ever a top 5?

Top 5 SF/PF, but not over all IMO.
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2006, 06:43:39 PM »
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Has the league become so watered down that a top 5 player now only has to play on one end of the floor?
As opposed to the 2 ends Charles Barkley used to play?
Was charles ever a top 5?

Top 5 SF/PF, but not over all IMO.
I was wondering the same thing  :huh:

Did Barkley steal Db's password?  Also I'd like to add that Barkley was a MUCH better rebounder than Dirk is.  
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2006, 10:45:52 AM »
If Barkley was never top 5, who were the top 5 in 1993?

Jordan and Olajuwon are givens, but who else?  Shaq?  His team wasn't even a playoff team in that year - his rookie year.  Magic and Bird were gone.  David Robinson and Patrick Ewing enjoyed less success than Barkley.  Isiah Thomas was on the down-swing.

Barkley was DEFINITELY a top 5 player.
 
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2006, 10:49:15 AM »
I know some of you have heard of Hollinger's PER ratings.  This is a rating that incorporates various forms of on-court production.  A good comparison is your PER vs your opponent's PER.  Just a few examples from 82games.com:

Player      PER    oPER
Garnett    28.7   15.7
Duncan    28.3   15.0
Brand      29.1   13.6  (speaks loudly of MVP consideration)
BigBen     20.2   16.4
JO'Neal    20.2   14.2
Dirk         29.1   16.0

I would say that Dirk is playing defense at the level of KG & TD & Big Ben based on the stats.  Maybe some of you should actually watch a few Mavs games before falling back on stereotypes.    :nod:  
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2006, 12:47:09 PM »
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Barkley was DEFINITELY a top 5 player.

Agreed.

And yes, Barkley was a helluva rebounder, which made him more valuable than Dirk.  But Barkley didn't play a lick of defense, which was the argument.
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