How should we determine keepers?

[Derek Bodner]

Reference:
http://www.phillyarena.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2305

[Guest_Randy]

Hmm, 6 votes out of what, 12 GM's?

[Derek Bodner]

I'll send out another league-side e-mail.

*edit* sent.

[WayOutWest]

I don't know who's proposal is what....

My vote:

Expanded roster
Player eligibility is reset ONLY by going through the draft.

[Skandery]

WOW

If you want:

Player eligibility is reset ONLY by going through the draft.

than you want Joe's proposal

 

[Lurker]

BTW does anyone have a copy of my final roster....I know several of you keep such things.  I seem to have misplaced that spreadsheet file.   :hail:  

[Derek Bodner]

Yes, I do.

[Joe Vancil]

Guys,

Are we ready to call this?  The league sign-up on Yahoo just started, and we probably want to sign up quick to get a good draft time.

[Derek Bodner]

yup, it's over.  i'll signup.

Now we need to make a chart of keeper eligibility

[Joe Vancil]

Derek,

Here's the last year's keepers that I remember:


Joe - Duncan, Nash
Skander - Kirilenko, McGrady
Caleb - Stoudemire, Anthony
Ziggy - Nowitzki, Allen
Dabods - Garnett, Kidd
LTTK - Brand, Stojakovic
WayOutJihad - O'Neal, Ming
Ted - Marion, James
Randy - Harrington
cord - Pierce
SpursX3 -
BBF -

players who I know were kept but are not on my list because I don't know who kept them:  Jermaine O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol.

There are 2 that I can't think of.  Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace, perhaps?

Of these players, Odom and McGrady are subject to the grandfather clause, and have two seasons of eligibility remaining.  All the others only have one.  (This is prior to this year's declaration of keepers.)

I know Skander and I argued the benefits of keeping who for which team, and I know I've got that list at home.  However, it's not the actual list - it's what we thought each team might do a couple of weeks prior to the end of the season before last.  That should tell me who has who, and with that, I'll probably be able to remember who the other two keepers were.
 

[WayOutWest]

Derek,

Here's the last year's keepers that I remember:


Joe - Duncan, Nash
Skander - Kirilenko, McGrady
Caleb - Stoudemire, Anthony
Ziggy - Nowitzki, Allen
Dabods - Garnett, Kidd
LTTK - Brand, Stojakovic
WayOutJihad - O'Neal, Ming
Ted - Marion, James
Randy - Harrington
cord - Pierce
SpursX3 -
BBF -

players who I know were kept but are not on my list because I don't know who kept them:  Jermaine O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol.

There are 2 that I can't think of.  Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace, perhaps?

Of these players, Odom and McGrady are subject to the grandfather clause, and have two seasons of eligibility remaining.  All the others only have one.  (This is prior to this year's declaration of keepers.)

I know Skander and I argued the benefits of keeping who for which team, and I know I've got that list at home.  However, it's not the actual list - it's what we thought each team might do a couple of weeks prior to the end of the season before last.  That should tell me who has who, and with that, I'll probably be able to remember who the other two keepers were.

Joe,

That's some major BS Joe!  I thought you were an honest guy.  I had Duncan YOU had Ming!

[Joe Vancil]

WayOut,

I *ALWAYS* have Duncan.  I only had Ming our FIRST year.

Duncan, Nash, Ming, Stockton, Malone, Eddie Jones, Rip Hamilton, Antawn Jamison, Brad Miller, Caron Butler, Wally Szczerbiak...tell me again, exactly HOW did that team lose?   Grrrr.  Darn you, Derek!




                                             Joe
 

[Joe Vancil]

Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace are the last two.  I had posted it in an old message.

 

[WayOutWest]

WayOut,

I *ALWAYS* have Duncan.  I only had Ming our FIRST year.

Duncan, Nash, Ming, Stockton, Malone, Eddie Jones, Rip Hamilton, Antawn Jamison, Brad Miller, Caron Butler, Wally Szczerbiak...tell me again, exactly HOW did that team lose?   Grrrr.  Darn you, Derek!




                                             Joe

Joe,

I was suprised you lost Joe.  After Randy handed you the title for some Add/Drop FODDER, I really thought you would cruise to the championship.

I was just joking.  The only trade I regret was Amare.  Traded him for Yao when Shaq went down two seasons ago because back then Amare wasn't center eligible.  Wish I could have taken that one back, but then again that was the only season I got into the playoffs.

Don't know how well I'll do this year, or if I'll even play because alot of stuff has changed for me at work.  I'm no longer an independant, I'm now a W2 LOSER!

When does the season start?  I hope to be moved into my house by the end of October.

[Skandery]

Joe -                 Duncan, Nash
Skander -         Kirilenko, McGrady
Caleb -             Stoudemire, Anthony
Ziggy -             Nowitzki, Allen
Dabods -           Garnett, Kidd
LTTK -               Brand, Stojakovic
WayOutJihad -  S. O'Neal, Ming
Ted -               Marion, James
Randy -           Harrington, J. O'Neal
cord -              Pierce, B. Wallace
SpursX3 -        K. Bryant, P. Gasol
BBF -              Odom, R. Wallace


Here are the keepers for the first offseason.  I am 100% sure about this, no doubt.

Skander went on to trade T. Mac for Redd and Hinrich, BBF went on to trade Odom for E. Okafor.  That is why T.Mac and Odom are "grandfathered" in.  

Every other keeper player has remained on the teams you see above!!  We sure don't like messing with our core in this league, do we??