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A challenge!
« on: June 07, 2009, 11:22:32 PM »
As I was looking over the box score for the game, I realized something:  there's going to be a forgotten starter on the championship team regardless of which team it is:  Trevor Ariza for the Lakers or Courtney Lee for the Magic.  So I got to thinking...I figured I'd go back, and see how many teams had a "forgotten starter."  The results surprised even me.  So I'm challenging you:  no peeking!  I'll give you four starters for a team that won the championship.  Can you give me the fifth?  Some are easy...some even I got wrong.

Note:  these are *FINALS* *LINE-UPS*.  Not regular season.  FINALS.

Here we go:

2008 Celtics:  Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo, and ?
2007 Spurs:    Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto, and ?
2006 Heat:     Dwyane Wade, Shaquille O'Neal, Jason Williams, Udonis Haslem, and ?
2005 Spurs:    Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobilli, Bruce Bowen, and ?
2004 Pistons:   Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton, Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace, and ?
2003 Spurs:    Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen, and ?
2002 Lakers:   Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, and ?
2001 Lakers:   Shaqulle O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, and ?
2000 Lakers:  Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Ron Harper, Glen Rice, and ?
1999 Spurs:   Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson, and ?
1998 Bulls:     Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Luc Longley, Ron Harper, and ?  (I MISSED THIS!)
1996/7 Bulls:  Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Luc Longley, Dennis Rodman, and ?
1995 Rockets:  Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, and ?
1994 Rockets:  Hakeem Olajuwon, Otis Thorpe, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, and ?
1993 Bulls:      Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, and ?
1991/2 Bulls:   Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, and ?
1990 Pistons:  Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, and ?
1989 Pistons:  Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, and ?

skipping a few years due to trouble getting the exact line-ups

1983 Sixers:    Moses Malone, Julius Erving, Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Toney, and ?
1982 Lakers:    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Jamaal Wilkes, and ?
1981 Celtics:    Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Cedric Maxwell, Tiny Archibald, and ?
1980 Lakers:    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Jamaal Wilkes, and ?
1979 Sonics:   Dennis Johnson, Gus Williams, Jack Sikma, Lonnie Shelton, and ?

How will you do?  I didn't do nearly as well as I though I would.
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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 11:43:48 PM »
Great question Joe.   I honestly won't even bother to try a lot of them but hear are a few guesses.

Vernon Maxwell for the mid 90's rockets.  If I remember correctly Elie came off the bench.   

Ron Harper for the early 2000 Lakers?   

Rasho Nestervovic for the 2005 Spurs?

Leon Powe started last year I think.

Anything past that would require to much thinking for this time of night. :)
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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2009, 12:19:26 AM »
2008 Celtics:  Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo, and ?
Perkins

2007 Spurs:    Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto, and ?
Finely?

2006 Heat:     Dwyane Wade, Shaquille O'Neal, Jason Williams, Udonis Haslem, and ?
Posey?

2005 Spurs:    Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobilli, Bruce Bowen, and ?
The center stiff...ugg...don't remember his name.

2004 Pistons:   Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton, Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace, and ?
Prince?

2003 Spurs:    Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Tony Parker, Bruce Bowen, and ?
Manu?

2002 Lakers:   Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, and ?
Samaki

2001 Lakers:   Shaqulle O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox, and ?
Horace

2000 Lakers:  Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Ron Harper, Glen Rice, and ?
AC Green

1999 Spurs:   Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson, and ?
Bowen?

1998 Bulls:     Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Luc Longley, Ron Harper, and ?  (I MISSED THIS!)
Kerr?

1996/7 Bulls:  Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Luc Longley, Dennis Rodman, and ?
BJ?

1995 Rockets:  Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, and ?
Casell?

1994 Rockets:  Hakeem Olajuwon, Otis Thorpe, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, and ?
Super Mario?

1993 Bulls:      Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, and ?
Paxon?

1991/2 Bulls:   Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, and ?
Paxon?

1990 Pistons:  Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, and ?
Aguire

1989 Pistons:  Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, and ?
Aguire


Before my time, but I'll give it a shot...
1983 Sixers:    Moses Malone, Julius Erving, Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Toney, and ?
??

1982 Lakers:    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Jamaal Wilkes, and ?
Macadoo?

1981 Celtics:    Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Cedric Maxwell, Tiny Archibald, and ?
McHale?

1980 Lakers:    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Jamaal Wilkes, and ?
???

1979 Sonics:   Dennis Johnson, Gus Williams, Jack Sikma, Lonnie Shelton, and ?
???

That's the best I can do.....
"History shouldn't be a mystery"
"Our story is real history"
"Not his story"

"My people's culture was strong, it was pure"
"And if not for that white greed"
"It would've endured"

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Offline WayOutWest

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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2009, 12:20:13 AM »
Great question Joe.   I honestly won't even bother to try a lot of them but hear are a few guesses.

Vernon Maxwell for the mid 90's rockets.  If I remember correctly Elie came off the bench.   

Ron Harper for the early 2000 Lakers?   

Rasho Nestervovic for the 2005 Spurs?

Leon Powe started last year I think.

Anything past that would require to much thinking for this time of night. :)

DANG!!! How could I forget MadMax?
"History shouldn't be a mystery"
"Our story is real history"
"Not his story"

"My people's culture was strong, it was pure"
"And if not for that white greed"
"It would've endured"

"Laker hate causes blindness"

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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2009, 01:20:40 AM »
WayOut got 7 correct.
JN got 1.
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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2009, 08:47:06 AM »
Elie was the starter for the 99 Spurs.

I think...
81 Celtics was Dennis Johnson

83 Sixers Bobby Jones
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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2009, 09:34:59 AM »
Yes! I'm number 1!!
"My only regret in life is that I did not drink more champagne."  -John Maynard Keynes

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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2009, 10:35:29 AM »
Yes! I'm number 1!!

You rule jn!  F LeBron, it's JN's world!
"History shouldn't be a mystery"
"Our story is real history"
"Not his story"

"My people's culture was strong, it was pure"
"And if not for that white greed"
"It would've endured"

"Laker hate causes blindness"

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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2009, 11:02:30 AM »
2008 Celtics:  Perkins
2007 Spurs:    Finley
2006 Heat:     Avery Johnson
2005 Spurs:    NazMan
2004 Pistons:  Prince
2003 Spurs:    Jax!
2002 Lakers:   Dick Baveta
2001 Lakers:   Dick Baveta
2000 Lakers:   Dick Baveta
1999 Spurs:    Mario Elle
1998 Bulls:     Dennis Flopman?
1996/7 Bulls:  Grant
1995 Rockets:  Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, and ?
1994 Rockets:  Hakeem Olajuwon, Otis Thorpe, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, and ?
1993 Bulls:      Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, and ?
1991/2 Bulls:   Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, and ?
1990 Pistons:  Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, and ?
1989 Pistons:  Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, and ?

skipping a few years due to trouble getting the exact line-ups

1983 Sixers:    Moses Malone, Julius Erving, Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Toney, and ?
1982 Lakers:    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Jamaal Wilkes, and ?
1981 Celtics:    Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Cedric Maxwell, Tiny Archibald, and ?
1980 Lakers:    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Jamaal Wilkes, and ?
1979 Sonics:   Dennis Johnson, Gus Williams, Jack Sikma, Lonnie Shelton, and ?

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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2009, 12:17:10 PM »
Elie was the starter for the 99 Spurs.

I think...
81 Celtics was Dennis Johnson

83 Sixers Bobby Jones


You've got 1, Lurker.
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Re: A challenge!
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2009, 12:20:35 PM »
2008 Celtics:  Perkins
2007 Spurs:    Finley
2006 Heat:     Avery Johnson
2005 Spurs:    NazMan
2004 Pistons:  Prince
2003 Spurs:    Jax!
2002 Lakers:   Dick Baveta
2001 Lakers:   Dick Baveta
2000 Lakers:   Dick Baveta
1999 Spurs:    Mario Elle
1998 Bulls:     Dennis Flopman?
1996/7 Bulls:  Grant
1995 Rockets:  Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, and ?
1994 Rockets:  Hakeem Olajuwon, Otis Thorpe, Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, and ?
1993 Bulls:      Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, and ?
1991/2 Bulls:   Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright, and ?
1990 Pistons:  Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, and ?
1989 Pistons:  Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, and ?

skipping a few years due to trouble getting the exact line-ups

1983 Sixers:    Moses Malone, Julius Erving, Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Toney, and ?
1982 Lakers:    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Jamaal Wilkes, and ?
1981 Celtics:    Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Cedric Maxwell, Tiny Archibald, and ?
1980 Lakers:    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, Jamaal Wilkes, and ?
1979 Sonics:   Dennis Johnson, Gus Williams, Jack Sikma, Lonnie Shelton, and ?

6 of them, Reality.  6 of the 8 that you answered seriously.

Joe

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