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Sonic's owners lied to Stern
« on: April 11, 2008, 08:56:24 AM »
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Sonics' Ownership's E-mails Seemingly Contradict Message to Stern, Seattle

Apr 10, 8:25 PM (ET)

By GREGG BELL
SEATTLE (AP) -E-mail messages between SuperSonics owner Clay Bennett and team co-owners appear to show Bennett misled NBA commissioner David Stern on the group's intentions to move the team to Oklahoma City before all avenues for a new arena in Seattle were closed.

The messages have become part of the team's dispute with the city of Seattle over the two years remaining on its KeyArena lease. Bennett is trying to buy out the lease so he can move the Sonics to his hometown for the 2008-09 season. The city claims the team must occupy the arena through 2009-10. The trial is scheduled to begin June 16.

U.S. District Judge Marsha Pechman is scheduled to hear the trial. She declined through a spokeswoman to comment on the e-mail messages, which the city first released to The Seattle Times and then to The Associated Press and others.

The NBA's board of governors are scheduled to vote next week on Bennett's application to relocate the Sonics to Oklahoma.

Pechman ruled in February that as part of the lawsuit's discovery process, the ownership group must give Seattle's lawyers copies of e-mail sent from or to all of its eight board members that could potentially be relevant to the case.

 
In one of those messages, dated April 17, 2007 - during a one-year period in which Bennett was professing a "good-faith" effort to get a new arena built that would keep the Sonics in Seattle - team co-owner Tom Ward wrote to Bennett from Oklahoma City: "Is there any way to move here for next season or are we doomed to have another lame duck season in Seattle?"

Bennett replied: "I am a man possessed! Will do everything we can. Thanks for hanging with me boys. the game is getting started!"

Ward answered back: "That's the spirit!! I am willing to help any way I can to watch ball here next year"

Co-owner Aubrey McClendon then wrote: "me too, thanks, Clay!"

Stern fined McClendon $250,000 last Aug. 23, two weeks after he told an Oklahoma City publication his group didn't buy the Sonics to keep them in Seattle. The comments by McClendon, an Oklahoma City energy tycoon and one of four original partners who bought the Sonics in July 2006 for $350 million, were at odds with Stern's stated hope of keeping the Sonics in Seattle.

Last Aug. 18, days after McClendon's comments were published, Bennett wrote a lengthy e-mail to Stern. It included a fawning section in which Bennett told the commissioner he was "an extraordinarily gifted executive ... with a rare and unique charisma that brings out the best in everyone you touch ... you are just one of my favorite people on earth and I so cherish our relationship Sonics business aside."

Bennett then wrote moving the Sonics to Oklahoma City was not yet being discussed within the ownership group.

"I would never breach your trust," Bennett e-mailed Stern. "As absolutely remarkable as it may seem, Aubrey and I have NEVER discussed moving the team to Oklahoma City, nor have I discussed it with ANY other member of our ownership group. I have been passionately committed to our process in Seattle, and have worked my (tail) off."

Yet on June 5, 2007, Sonics arena consultant Tim Romani e-mailed Bennett and asked that he talk to Oklahoma City manager Jim Couch before Romani was to "engage in earnest negotiations" with Couch.

Couch declined comment Thursday, citing the ongoing legal process and his pending deposition next week. A spokesman for Bennett, Dan Mahoney, also declined comment.

The e-mail messages also include Ward writing McClendon on Aug. 2, 2006, weeks after they purchased the Sonics and pledged they would attempt to keep them in Seattle.

"I don't think you and I really want to own a team there either ... ," Ward wrote to McClendon, in the context of a partner bailing on the transaction.

When asked about the perception Bennett misled Stern last August that Sonics owners had never discussed moving the team to Oklahoma City, league spokesman Tim Frank declined to comment.

Seattle's motion filed Wednesday in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York seeks to enforce the city's subpoena of the financial records for the NBA and all of its teams. The city recently rejected Bennett's group offering $26.5 million to settle the lease dispute and move the team after this season ends Sunday.

Seattle wants access to documents detailing how the league handles the relocation of teams, early termination of leases and what it wrote was "the NBA's direct involvement in the owners' attempts to move the Sonics."

When asked for the league's response to Seattle's subpoena that the NBA open its books, Frank said the league does not comment on pending litigation.

An assistant for Seattle city attorney Tom Carr said Carr was traveling Thursday and would not comment.

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Re: Sonic's owners lied to Stern
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 10:07:20 AM »
Well, anyone who didn't believe that the new owner didn't prefer for the team to move to Oklahoma City were pretty clueless.  As for the other part of this (it was happening when I was still in Seattle), Mayor Nichols and the rest of the politicians in Seattle also promised to find a way to make this work.  Their answer was pretty much "if you want something better -- build it yourself -- if you want something fixed up, pay for it yourself." 

Both sides didn't want to work anything out -- and anyone who thinks that Stern didn't know that is a little naive. 

And what do you expect Stern to do?  Force Bennett and boys to sell the team?  Key Arena is the worst venue in the NBA today -- Nichols and Seattle already know that but somehow they think that teams will just jump at the chance to play there.  It's just not going to happen.  There are a lot of other things they can do with Key Arena but Bennett and boys can do better in Oklahoma City with a more expensive venue in the arena even if they only get half the seats sold. 

The days of Key Arena basketball are over -- at least at the NBA level.  And everybody is to blame and everybody lied.  Nichols and the politicians didn't try to find a workable solution -- Bennett and boys didn't really want to keep the team there so they didn't try hard either. 

Stern can fine Bennett and brothers but if you try and keep the team in Seattle at this point, you end up screwing everybody -- the city, the team, the new owners who buy the Sonics -- everybody.  IMO, it's way beyond the ability to fix this mess.  It's better to move and move on.

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Re: Sonic's owners lied to Stern
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2008, 10:16:27 AM »
The other owners have not approved relocation yet.  And flat out lying to the commissioner isn't the best way to ingratiate yourself with your fellow owners.  So why should the league or other owners believe anything else that Bennett proposes?
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Re: Sonic's owners lied to Stern
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2008, 10:46:39 AM »
Well, anyone who didn't believe that the new owner didn't prefer for the team to move to Oklahoma City were pretty clueless.  As for the other part of this (it was happening when I was still in Seattle), Mayor Nichols and the rest of the politicians in Seattle also promised to find a way to make this work.  Their answer was pretty much "if you want something better -- build it yourself -- if you want something fixed up, pay for it yourself." 
Evil greedy owners and NBA all.

Randy, what became of the Indian reservation very near Seattle that was going to donate the land in exchange for the $$ windfall they assumed would follow.

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Re: Sonic's owners lied to Stern
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2008, 12:25:56 PM »
I'm not saying that Bennett and company are right -- I'm saying they are just as wrong as the city officials who acted like idiots the entire time.  They treated Bennett badly from the very beginning -- all in the name of politics in order to look better in the community.  I don't like either side.

My point really has little to do with Bennett and company -- my point is that the ballclub has done poorly in the past but it will do horribly in the future.  There is so much ill will, at this point, with Bennett, Nichols and company, and the average citizens that there is no way to repair it even if you could find new owners.  I have several friends who wouldn't renew their season passes next year if you offered it to them half off.  They are just disgusted with the politics, the new owners and the team. 

Leaving the team is Seattle is not an answer, IMO.


The Muckleshoot Indians would LOVE to have the arena built on their land but nobody really ever considered it.  The traffic there is already a nightmare because of the casino (which really doesn't get that much traffic in and out).  They just don't have the infrastructure there.  There are two other proposed sights that were far better -- one in Redman and one in Bremerton but both of these areas also have huge traffic problems (they rank from worse to just bad from Muckleshoot to Bremerton to Redman).  The traffic in and out of Seattle is already horrible -- the best real option is to put the arena outside of the traffic off of I-90 and build up the infrastructure in roads to handle the traffic.  The problem is that nobody wants to do that because then they don't benefit from the arena as much.

I have a friend who is a lawyer in Seattle -- in one closed meeting Nichols basically said that if Seattle couldn't get the new owners to renovate the arena, then they would fight them building an arena anywhere else.  When they started looking at the costs of a new arena and looked at fact that there isn't a way to change the arena to recoop the costs -- they realized that there would be no way that Bennett and the boys would pony up for those costs.  So they begin to dig their feet in and make sure that the Sonics didn't stay in the area.  My friend thinks that Nichols thinks his political career is over if the Sonics stay in the state but move out of Seattle.  He has pulled in a few favors from the State legislature because the legislature was brought in on the issue. 

The city won't pay for improvements to Key Arena -- and it really doesn't make sense to pay for them because the added profits garnered by the revisions just don't substantiate the cost.  So, because Nichols knew this -- he was determined to make sure that the Sonics didn't stay in the area and he was determined to make everyone in the area grow to hate Bennett (not like Nichols needed a lot of help in this area -- Bennett was capable of that all by himself).  So now everyone hates the Sonics, Bennett and Nichols. 

Nichols is even trying to make it so that the Sonics have to play in Key Arena until their lease is up.  Bennett was willing to buy out the lease but that's not enough for Nichols -- Nichols wants the team to be loathed in Seattle -- he has the idea that the more the Seattle people hate the Sonics and Bennett, the more they will love him.  He wants to see Bennett take a huge loss until the lease is up.

It's a catch-22.  I don't like Bennett but I'd hate to see the Sonics have to play in Seattle another year -- I'd also hate for Nichols to get what he wants too.  The whole situation is messed up but I'm not sure how best to solve it.  I sure don't think that blocking the sale is the answer -- that just hurts the Sonics and makes Nichols a happy camper.  I'd hate to see that.

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Re: Sonic's owners lied to Stern
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 02:33:54 PM »
Well, anyone who didn't believe that the new owner didn't prefer for the team to move to Oklahoma City were pretty clueless.  As for the other part of this (it was happening when I was still in Seattle), Mayor Nichols and the rest of the politicians in Seattle also promised to find a way to make this work.  Their answer was pretty much "if you want something better -- build it yourself -- if you want something fixed up, pay for it yourself." 
Evil greedy owners and NBA all.

Randy, what became of the Indian reservation very near Seattle that was going to donate the land in exchange for the $$ windfall they assumed would follow.

How come Sternfish can rig up entire playoff matchups but he can't get a handle on the Sonics franchise?
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Re: Sonic's owners lied to Stern
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 08:48:14 AM »
Not sure this lawsuit is going anywhere but we shall see.
NBA suits vote Friday to approve move for Bennet to Okla City.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3347564

The former owner of the Seattle SuperSonics plans to sue the current owners to get the team back, arguing they breached a condition of the sale to make a "good-faith effort" to keep Seattle's oldest pro sports franchise from leaving town, according to Seattle-area media reports.