Is it wrong of me to say 'who cares' when it

[westkoast]

KYOTO, Japan Nov 15, 2005 — President Bush prodded China on Wednesday to grant more political freedom to its 1.3 billion people and held up archrival Taiwan as a society that successfully moved from repression to democracy as it opened its economy.

In remarks sure to rile Beijing, Bush suggested China should follow Taiwan's path.

"Modern Taiwan is free and democratic and prosperous. By embracing freedom at all levels, Taiwan has delivered prosperity to its people and created a free and democratic Chinese society," the president said.

Bush made his remarks in the advance text of a speech that was to be the cornerstone address of his Asian trip. From Japan, he will continue to South Korea, China and Mongolia.

At a state guest house, Bush met with Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, an unflinching ally despite the president's record-low popularity and mounting problems at home. The president called Koizumi his "buddy." Bush wants Japan to play a stronger role in Asian security issues, perhaps as a counterbalance to China's growing strength, vast army and designs on U.S. ally Taiwan.

 

[westkoast]

Doesn't George Bush and his band of brothers have more important things to do?  I understand foreign diplomacy is important.  Just question the timing and the source this is coming from.  Maybe work on matters at home first and how a foreign government is treating its citizens later?  Is it wrong for me to think like that?  Couldn't the administrations time be spent on something more important?

[rickortreat]

The US is highly hypocritical when it says anything like this.  If human rights were really so important to us, why was China given most favored Nation status years ago, and supported by the US in it's efforts to join the WTO?

The US is exploiting Chinese labor at the expense of the American worker, precisely because conditions in China are comparatively better for businesses than workers there.  There are no labor laws restricting hours, no public savings or pension plans, no envirnomental laws.  This is what American businesses are competing against.

How can American businesses compete with cheap Chinese labor and an unfavorable exhange rate?  They can't which is why factories are closing down here.

Bush is simply yanking the Chinese leg, and trying to keep China from expanding it's influence in the region.  While Bush is making speeches, China is starting to dominate Asian politics, making side deals with Vietnam and the Phillipines, and attempting to marginalize Taiwan and Japan.  

Bush isn't concerned with human rights, he's not concerned with the rule of law or expanding democracy.  All he's interested in is money and power for him and his cronies, some of whom are Chinese.
 

[Ted]

The US is highly hypocritical when it says anything like this.  If human rights were really so important to us, why was China given most favored Nation status years ago, and supported by the US in it's efforts to join the WTO?

Ask Bill Clinton why? I'm with you guys. Screw China.

[westkoast]

The US is highly hypocritical when it says anything like this.  If human rights were really so important to us, why was China given most favored Nation status years ago, and supported by the US in it's efforts to join the WTO?

Ask Bill Clinton why? I'm with you guys. Screw China.

Bill saw China as a place to make money, plain and simple.  Our government is never motivated to help other nations out unless there is something in it for us.  Whether its a worldwide PR stunt or access to resources.

I almost feel selfish by thinking that we should just stick to worrying about ourselves and not helping anyone else.  Cant say that I care as much about what a young chinese student can or cannot say in the country as much as I care about the shape of our educational system and citizens over in Iraq dying to give freedom to people who hate us.  We do not need to help anyone.  We need to internalize and fix whats wrong at home first.    The US did it one time many many moons ago, I think we need to get back to that.

I also think that the current administration and our government as a whole really are not the right people to talk about human rights issues right now because of the war in Iraq.  We invaded a country, killed innocent civilians, ran sacked and raided innocent peoples homes at all hours of the night (anyone see the hours of footage of this on the Military channel?), and if we pull out may cause a severe civil war.

[rickortreat]

Not just Clinton, but all politicians from both sides of the aisle (remember Bill did not have a democratic majority in Congress when that Favored Nation status was bestowed.) have sold us down the river for money from Chinese lobbyists.

Rich people in this country are shifting jobs and factories to China, and making deals with the people in China who can facillitate this.  The average American worker is being betrayed by politicians and business leaders who are sacrificing our standard of living and our way of life by transfering wealth production overseas.

This is why I'm so critical of our government, and why I have contempt for Bush and his cronies, and Democrats who won't stand up against this economic onslaught from foreign nations.

Gold just went over $486 today kiddies.  Hope those of you who listened to me in the past have gotten on the bandwagon.  Gold is heading over $500 near term, and over $1000 in a few years.