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PhillyArena Community => NBA Discussion => Topic started by: Skandery on December 06, 2009, 10:59:36 AM
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The kid just can't get a break. A freak collision with someone 1/16th his size (Aaron Brooks) causes a shattered Patella!? The Ghost of Sam Bowie keeps howling in those Blazer corridors. Oden really looked to be the most consistent player on the Blazer squad this season, too.
The questions now are obviously how does Oden come back after he's likely going to miss the rest of this season? What does this setback do for Portland for this season and beyond?
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They're done out west without him, what a shame, Blazers are fun to watch. NBA just announced he is done for the year.
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Unless they address the lack of a big man they will continue to get knocked off by the better, more well rounded squads out west. It doesn't matter how good Brandon Roy gets (See Kobe's teams post-Shaq, pre-Gasol/Bynum) because they don't have the inside outside game to contend. They could go after someone else and be fine but at this point, they are hurting badly. Tough break for the squad and their fans (zigs =/)
He is still too young to give up on. While he is very injury prone they seem to be freak type accidents that bust him up. Not too much you can do to prepare for bad luck. Each injury diminishes his potential and this type of injury could hinder foot work but I think he comes back as a backup. The franchise are not going to depend on him being a starter if they do in fact want to become contenders.
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Sam Dalembert is available.
At what point is Oden just prone to injury or maybe a little too fragile? According to what I read today he just landed (they said no knee bump) and screwed up his knee, maybe his body just isn't built to handle the punishment of the NBA?
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What does this setback do for Portland for this season and beyond?
Can't answer that, but this sucks, all the way around.
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The kid just can't get a break. A freak collision with someone 1/16th his size (Aaron Brooks) causes a shattered Patella!? The Ghost of Sam Bowie keeps howling in those Blazer corridors. Oden really looked to be the most consistent player on the Blazer squad this season, too.
The questions now are obviously how does Oden come back after he's likely going to miss the rest of this season? What does this setback do for Portland for this season and beyond?
Does that mean Durant is the next Jordan?
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Nic Batum is out until mid-March
Travis Outlaw done for the season
Oden done for the season
Rudy Fernandez out 4-6 week with back surgery
Jeff Pendegraph out until Feb with Shoulder surgery
Paddy Mills out until Feb with foot surgery
that leaves 9 players until mid to late January
Back up center is Juwan Howard
Back up F is Dante Cunningham
and two back up PG Bayless and Andre Miller
It is going to be a long season. If some thing happens to Przybilla then Mills has to be released and we have to go searching for a big guy, if we don't go searching immediately.
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Oh I also forgot Nate McMillian is out as well after surgery to repair a ruptured Achilles tendon in his right foot. Lead assistant, Dean Demopoulos has been coaching on the 4 game eastern swing. He ruptured it when he practiced with the team, as there were only 9 healthy players to practice.
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So when does Darius Miles' carcass show up, contribute enough to get a look, sign a ten-day contract, and promptly start dealing weed to every member of the team?
Over/Under's at a week and a half.
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So when does Darius Miles' carcass show up, contribute enough to get a look, sign a ten-day contract, and promptly start dealing weed to every member of the team?
Over/Under's at a week and a half.
Funny how that all worked out with Darius last year. In the games where Darius played the Grizz were 6-28. He played in 34 games, 20 of which were less than 10 minutes, and of the games where he played 10 minutes + only one was a win. He hasn't even sniffed the league this year, when signing him would have no impact of the Blazers ability to sign free agents. Pretty obvious Memphis did what they did for only one reason, and that was to torpedo the Blazers cap space last season. They did not see Darius as having a future in the league, and adding Darius did not make them better. Two independent Drs. said Darius was not physically able to play in the league, and that further playing could result in permanent damage to his knee, and yet the Grizz, knowing all of this, signed him anyway.
Memphis traded a top 10 NBA player for 4 carrots and a box of Grape Nuts (to a team that has finished finals champs and finals runner up since the trade), and then went out of their way to torpedo your cap space for no other reason than spite. Now assume you are an NBA GM how would you approach that franchise in the future?
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Memphis traded a top 10 NBA player for 4 carrots and a box of Grape Nuts (to a team that has finished finals champs and finals runner up since the trade), and then went out of their way to torpedo your cap space for no other reason than spite. Now assume you are an NBA GM how would you approach that franchise in the future?
I'd approach it the way I approach any joke franchise, FARM team. Look for any way to rob them of their few valuables. How long you think a guy like Rudy Gay can stand to play for some punchline without any prospects. Do you think he'll take the QO next year? Do you think a loser like Heisley can stomach to match a long-term committment? If I'm Portland, I've already got 4 agents, 2 strippers, and a Cadillac Escalade following Rudy Gay around Memphis telling him how nice life is in the good ole' Northwest. Some team is going to steal Rudy Gay, I'd want it to be me. That's of course if you don't think you can talk them into trading him for 4 carrots and a box of Grape Nuts (y'know Travis Outlaw and Andre Miller).
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Marc Gasol and NBA analysts around the league don't agree he's a carot lol
How would I approach Memphis? I'd ignore them. They are great at beating themselves.
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Funny how that all worked out with Darius last year. In the games where Darius played the Grizz were 6-28. He played in 34 games, 20 of which were less than 10 minutes, and of the games where he played 10 minutes + only one was a win. He hasn't even sniffed the league this year, when signing him would have no impact of the Blazers ability to sign free agents. Pretty obvious Memphis did what they did for only one reason, and that was to torpedo the Blazers cap space last season. They did not see Darius as having a future in the league, and adding Darius did not make them better. Two independent Drs. said Darius was not physically able to play in the league, and that further playing could result in permanent damage to his knee, and yet the Grizz, knowing all of this, signed him anyway.
Memphis traded a top 10 NBA player for 4 carrots and a box of Grape Nuts (to a team that has finished finals champs and finals runner up since the trade), and then went out of their way to torpedo your cap space for no other reason than spite. Now assume you are an NBA GM how would you approach that franchise in the future?
What problem/history do the franchises have with each other? Why would the Griz want to mess with Portalnd?
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Funny how that all worked out with Darius last year. In the games where Darius played the Grizz were 6-28. He played in 34 games, 20 of which were less than 10 minutes, and of the games where he played 10 minutes + only one was a win. He hasn't even sniffed the league this year, when signing him would have no impact of the Blazers ability to sign free agents. Pretty obvious Memphis did what they did for only one reason, and that was to torpedo the Blazers cap space last season. They did not see Darius as having a future in the league, and adding Darius did not make them better. Two independent Drs. said Darius was not physically able to play in the league, and that further playing could result in permanent damage to his knee, and yet the Grizz, knowing all of this, signed him anyway.
Memphis traded a top 10 NBA player for 4 carrots and a box of Grape Nuts (to a team that has finished finals champs and finals runner up since the trade), and then went out of their way to torpedo your cap space for no other reason than spite. Now assume you are an NBA GM how would you approach that franchise in the future?
What problem/history do the franchises have with each other? Why would the Griz want to mess with Portalnd?
I was wondering the same thing. I know the Blazers GM has rubbed a number of people in the league the wrong way but would they go out of their way to do this out of spite for him?
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Funny how that all worked out with Darius last year. In the games where Darius played the Grizz were 6-28. He played in 34 games, 20 of which were less than 10 minutes, and of the games where he played 10 minutes + only one was a win. He hasn't even sniffed the league this year, when signing him would have no impact of the Blazers ability to sign free agents. Pretty obvious Memphis did what they did for only one reason, and that was to torpedo the Blazers cap space last season. They did not see Darius as having a future in the league, and adding Darius did not make them better. Two independent Drs. said Darius was not physically able to play in the league, and that further playing could result in permanent damage to his knee, and yet the Grizz, knowing all of this, signed him anyway.
Memphis traded a top 10 NBA player for 4 carrots and a box of Grape Nuts (to a team that has finished finals champs and finals runner up since the trade), and then went out of their way to torpedo your cap space for no other reason than spite. Now assume you are an NBA GM how would you approach that franchise in the future?
What problem/history do the franchises have with each other? Why would the Griz want to mess with Portland?
I have no idea. Perhaps the Blazers were behind the scene's complaining about the Pau trade. Maybe they were asserting something untoward with West and the Lakers, even though by then West was gone from Memphis. I doubt that, because I think something would have leaked, but you never know. I actually think it is probably payback for the fact that the Grizz tanked an entire season to get Oden, and then Portland and Seattle won the lottery. I think it is just sour grapes (or soggy grape nuts) for that.
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Marc Gasol and NBA analysts around the league don't agree he's a carot lol
How would I approach Memphis? I'd ignore them. They are great at beating themselves.
Actually Marc is the 4 carrots. Kwame was a spoonful of Grape Nuts.
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Didn't memphis keep miles on the roster long enough to screw portland over money wise? I can't remember how that worked out
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Didn't memphis keep miles on the roster long enough to screw portland over money wise? I can't remember how that worked out
Yes they did.
And anything that involves Darius Miles ends up bad so.....
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Marc Gasol and NBA analysts around the league don't agree he's a carot lol
How would I approach Memphis? I'd ignore them. They are great at beating themselves.
Actually Marc is the 4 carrots. Kwame was a spoonful of Grape Nuts.
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Gregg Popovich on the Pau Gasol deal
December 13, 2009 | 7:21 pm
We had a fun exchange with Gregg Popovich tonight at Staples ahead of San Antonio's tussle with the Clippers (yes, we do attend LAC games from time to time), when the subject of the Pau Gasol trade came up. "You mean the one where I fainted?" he asked with a smile.
Pop, no surprise, still sees that deal as a watershed. "Pau Gasol changed the landscape of basketball in the NBA, as far as the west is concerned, and championship caliber basketball. He's a great player, perhaps the most versatile big man in the league right now, and it makes them really, really good."
Andy then asked him if the development of Pau's lil' bro in Memphis makes the deal perhaps a little less lopsided. Marc has, after all, become a very good NBA player down in Memphis, and is still very early in his career. Maybe, just maybe, it was a more equitable swap than he originally thought?
"Please," he said with a sarcastic eye roll. "Please."
From his perspective, it doesn't really matter how good Marc becomes, since he's concerned about winning titles, not the rebuilding effort in Memphis. Thus anything that creates a dominant team in LA will seem disproportional. But it does drive home how Pau's presence turned an already quality Lakers team into something truly feared around the league. It's hard to think of another deal that, as Popovich says, "changed the landscape... in the NBA." Not just because of what it did for the Lakers, but how it affected the way other teams operated around them, their moves, and so on.
BK
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It's not that hard to think of a player moving out West that changed the landscape. In fact you don't have to look much farther than the last time a Lakers landed a big man by the name of Shaq.
I've yet to see the point in even comparing Pau Gasol and Marc Gasol right now but hay, I guess when you are in a pinch and need something to talk about with Pop :D
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Nic Batum is out until mid-March
Travis Outlaw done for the season
Oden done for the season
Rudy Fernandez out 4-6 week with back surgery
Jeff Pendegraph out until Feb with Shoulder surgery
Paddy Mills out until Feb with foot surgery
that leaves 9 players until mid to late January
Back up center is Juwan Howard
Back up F is Dante Cunningham
and two back up PG Bayless and Andre Miller
It is going to be a long season. If some thing happens to Przybilla then Mills has to be released and we have to go searching for a big guy, if we don't go searching immediately.
Well Joel Przybilla went down with a ruptured Patella tendon, and is out indefinitely, probably rest of the year. Brandon Roy hurt his shoulder and is day-to-day. We did get Jeff Pendegraph back, and Paddy Mills is now able to practice. Our center is now Juwan Howard, and Pendegraph is the back up.
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Well Joel Przybilla went down with a ruptured Patella tendon, and is out indefinitely, probably rest of the year. Brandon Roy hurt his shoulder and is day-to-day. We did get Jeff Pendegraph back, and Paddy Mills is now able to practice. Our center is now Juwan Howard, and Pendegraph is the back up.
Ouch!
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Well Joel Przybilla went down with a ruptured Patella tendon, and is out indefinitely, probably rest of the year. Brandon Roy hurt his shoulder and is day-to-day. We did get Jeff Pendegraph back, and Paddy Mills is now able to practice. Our center is now Juwan Howard, and Pendegraph is the back up.
wow. that's rough, ziggy. there was so much promise for your team going into this season.
although with the Blazers/Spurs playing tonight I may not feel too much sympathy right now. ;)
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It is simply not safe to play center for the Blazers.
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We'll give you dalembert. He's only got 15 months left on his contract.
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We'll give you dalembert. He's only got 15 months left on his contract.
You know who the sixers would end up with if they discussed such a deal right.
I mean what free agent signing is everyone saying is terrible?:)
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Well now it is LaMarcus. Hey Pendegraph did get 14 rebounds in his place, and we resigned Shavlik Randolph, who I actually like.
Aldridge sprains ankle. Blazers 103, Clippers 99
By The Associated Press
December 30, 2009, 10:02PM
Brandon Roy had 25 points, seven rebounds and six assists, and the Portland Trail Blazers beat the Los Angeles Clippers 103-99 Wednesday night despite losing LaMarcus Aldridge to an ankle injury.
Martell Webster added 15 points, Jerryd Bayless had 14 and rookie Jeff Pendergraph had eight points and 14 rebounds for the Blazers, who have won four in a row and seven of eight against the Clippers.
Chris Kaman had 25 points and nine rebounds for the Clippers, and Eric Gordon added 24 points. Rasual Butler scored 15 and Baron Davis had 12 points and 11 assists but shot just 2-of-15. The Clippers have lost three of four.
The short-handed Blazers were dealt another setback when Aldridge sprained his left ankle early in the first quarter and missed the rest of the game.
Aldridge leaves Clippers game with left ankle sprain, but doesn't appear serious
By Jason Quick, The Oregonian
December 30, 2009, 8:27PM
The Trail Blazers long list of injuries just got longer.
Star forward LaMarcus Aldridge sprained his left ankle and had to leave the game with 5:40 left in the first quarter of Wednesday's game against the Los Angeles Clippers.
The team said he is doubtful to return for tonight's game, which the Blazers lead 57-48. However, a source inside the team said the injury does not appear serious, and that the hope is Aldridge can play Saturday against Golden State at the Rose Garden.
Aldridge suffered the injury while making a layin with 6:00 left, apparently rolling the ankle over.
As the Blazers entered the locker room at halftime, Aldridge was sprawled on the training table with his shoe off while Greg Oden stood over him, leaning on crutches.
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Well now it is LaMarcus. Hey Pendegraph did get 14 rebounds in his place, and we resigned Shavlik Randolph, who I actually like.
Aldridge sprains ankle. Blazers 103, Clippers 99
By The Associated Press
December 30, 2009, 10:02PM
Brandon Roy had 25 points, seven rebounds and six assists, and the Portland Trail Blazers beat the Los Angeles Clippers 103-99 Wednesday night despite losing LaMarcus Aldridge to an ankle injury.
Martell Webster added 15 points, Jerryd Bayless had 14 and rookie Jeff Pendergraph had eight points and 14 rebounds for the Blazers, who have won four in a row and seven of eight against the Clippers.
Chris Kaman had 25 points and nine rebounds for the Clippers, and Eric Gordon added 24 points. Rasual Butler scored 15 and Baron Davis had 12 points and 11 assists but shot just 2-of-15. The Clippers have lost three of four.
The short-handed Blazers were dealt another setback when Aldridge sprained his left ankle early in the first quarter and missed the rest of the game.
Aldridge leaves Clippers game with left ankle sprain, but doesn't appear serious
By Jason Quick, The Oregonian
December 30, 2009, 8:27PM
The Trail Blazers long list of injuries just got longer.
Star forward LaMarcus Aldridge sprained his left ankle and had to leave the game with 5:40 left in the first quarter of Wednesday's game against the Los Angeles Clippers.
The team said he is doubtful to return for tonight's game, which the Blazers lead 57-48. However, a source inside the team said the injury does not appear serious, and that the hope is Aldridge can play Saturday against Golden State at the Rose Garden.
Aldridge suffered the injury while making a layin with 6:00 left, apparently rolling the ankle over.
As the Blazers entered the locker room at halftime, Aldridge was sprawled on the training table with his shoe off while Greg Oden stood over him, leaning on crutches.
The truely sad thing is he's on MY Fantasy team! >:( I guess being a big man on the Blazers is a curse.
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It just never ends
From HoopsHype
Brian T. Smith: Update: #Blazers' Aldridge walked with a crutch and boot Thursday. He was out of the boot today, but could possibly miss more than one game. Twitter.com
Portland Trail Blazers guard Steve Blake has been hospitalized with pneumonia, the team said Friday. Blake, who was admitted to a local-area hospital, is expected to miss at least a few days and is out indefinitely. The 6-foot-3, 172-pound Blake is averaging 7.6 points, 3.6 assists and 2.4 rebounds in 34 games (25) starts for the Blazers this season. Columbian
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
Roy has missed 3 of the last 4 and will miss 4 more at least.
Jerryd Bayless now has a sprained ankle and will miss tonight at least
Looks like Juwan Howard is out tonight as well.
That leaves us with
Andre Miller
Steve Blake
Rudy Fernandez
Martell Webster
LaMarcus Aldridge
Jeff Pendagraph
Dante' Cunningham
Patty Mills (if he is able to make the flight connections from the NBDL)
Nick Batum will be available early next week.
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
Roy has missed 3 of the last 4 and will miss 4 more at least.
Jerryd Bayless now has a sprained ankle and will miss tonight at least
Looks like Juwan Howard is out tonight as well.
That leaves us with
Andre Miller
Steve Blake
Rudy Fernandez
Martell Webster
LaMarcus Aldridge
Jeff Pendagraph
Dante' Cunningham
Patty Mills (if he is able to make the flight connections from the NBDL)
Nick Batum will be available early next week.
You guys need to make some trades........for new trainers :D