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Atleast we won't have to worry about back to backs in the playoffs...
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Atleast we won't have to worry about back to backs in the playoffs...
Spurs are not exactly dominatiog other teams, in fact the # of squeaker wins combined with Dallas being one game behind could concern the bandwaggon Spurs followers. But ATL has been beating other teams and Okla City has a great home court crowd so....the losses sucks but bottom line 19-5 is a great start.
Yeah the game leading up to the marquee Dec 25th Spurs-Pistons game has the Spurs completing 4-5 roadies and being at Detroit. That and Manu being out could take some luster off the game. But hard to feel sorry for the Spurs when they picked up the two most sought after free agents in Finley and Fabs Oberto. Fabs again showed off his offensive prowess last night in going 2-2 (thats 1.000 percentage Randy and WOW) to add to his yearly shooting total of well over .500%.
Why is Rasho getting the majority of the minutes of the three headed
Spurs center monster?
Tim Dunkar said to be nursing plantar facias (sp). So are a lot of NBA players but that can bring you down for sure. He looks slow. Yet Pop has him leading the team in minutes. Completely disagree. :nonono:
Eva Longoria continues to be very good for Tony Parker. :up:
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Yeah the game leading up to the marquee Dec 25th Spurs-Pistons game has the Spurs completing 4-5 roadies and being at Detroit. That and Manu being out could take some luster off the game. But hard to feel sorry for the Spurs when they picked up the two most sought after free agents in Finley and Fabs Oberto. Fabs again showed off his offensive prowess last night in going 2-2 (thats 1.000 percentage Randy and WOW) to add to his yearly shooting total of well over .500%.
:rofl: Now THIS is funny -- I know a LOT of teams going after Finley - not aware of anyone else chasing after Oberto! Although I'm sure there are TONS of GM's drooling over his 8 minutes a game!
Why is Rasho getting the majority of the minutes of the three headed
Spurs center monster?
This is a huge surprise too -- I mean, if Oberto is half as good as you proclaimed him to be, then he should be starting and getting starters minutes! Surely, you weren't wrong being the astute basketball prognosticator that you keep telling us you are! :rolleyes:
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Yeah the game leading up to the marquee Dec 25th Spurs-Pistons game has the Spurs completing 4-5 roadies and being at Detroit. That and Manu being out could take some luster off the game. But hard to feel sorry for the Spurs when they picked up the two most sought after free agents in Finley and Fabs Oberto. Fabs again showed off his offensive prowess last night in going 2-2 (thats 1.000 percentage Randy and WOW) to add to his yearly shooting total of well over .500%.
:rofl: Now THIS is funny -- I know a LOT of teams going after Finley - not aware of anyone else chasing after Oberto! Although I'm sure there are TONS of GM's drooling over his 8 minutes a game!
Why is Rasho getting the majority of the minutes of the three headed
Spurs center monster?
This is a huge surprise too -- I mean, if Oberto is half as good as you proclaimed him to be, then he should be starting and getting starters minutes! Surely, you weren't wrong being the astute basketball prognosticator that you keep telling us you are! :rolleyes:
In case you didn't know, that was Randolph.
In case you didn't know, Randoph is missing the point that the multiple team sought after Oberto, including GM Jerry West, is the Spurs secret weapon. Why Pop is saving him is a James Bond type mystery that only Spurs insiders know.
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lol -- it would help if West actually MADE that statement instead of you just making it all up!
Of course, you've NEVER had a problem making up facts!
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lol -- it would help if West actually MADE that statement instead of you just making it all up!
Of course, you've NEVER had a problem making up facts!
I know I'm good, but now you credit me with making up and owning Yahoo and ESPN sports. I could get you a Memphis newspaper or maybe even Jerry West himself, but you would not believe it exists. Since you only exist in cypberspace. :rofl:
"An affordable buyout clause allowed Oberto to become a free agent at the start of this summer, and the Spurs grabbed him at the last second after he was set to sign with Memphis."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqLY...ov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqLY...ov=ap&type=lgns)
espn reported the same thing.
Randy, Jerry West is the GM of Memphis. Hence, Oberto being "about to sign with Memphis", would be overseen by Jerry West.
We went over this months ago.
http://www.phillyarena.net/forums/index.ph...7&hl=jerry+west (http://www.phillyarena.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2407&hl=jerry+west)
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lol -- it would help if West actually MADE that statement instead of you just making it all up!
Of course, you've NEVER had a problem making up facts!
Actually Randy,
West did comment about Oberto. Jerry is tired of his Asian housekeeper/cook, he wanted Oberto in order to get a taste of some south of the border cuisine.
Who's having a better year, Fagasio Oberto or Kwame Brown? Somebody owes somebody a BEER!
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Who's having a better year, Fagasio Oberto or Kwame Brown? Somebody owes somebody a BEER!
June 25th, 2006. Hubie Brown announcing during the Finals: "That steal and assist pass upcourt to his buddy SuperManu Gnobili by Fabs Oberto was a key play in the Spurs overcoming an 8 point 4th qtr Pistons lead. With the Spurs now up 3 games to 1 it looks like you can hoist another title banner in San Antonio.
It's a credit to RC Buford, Pop, team consultant Reality and others who bring in a guy like Fabs to keep this thing rolling."
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Who's having a better year, Fagasio Oberto or Kwame Brown? Somebody owes somebody a BEER!
You are indeed owed a beer by Lurker and Xs3. They said Brown would be pulling splinters and in Phils Doghouse by Xmass.
Myself I am pissed at Pop for giving Dunkan the most minutes and keeping secret weapon Fabs down for the years 1st quarter. But I'll stick my original post including Fabs attitude: "You've got an engine rolling,'' Oberto said. ``You've got to go there and not bother anything, don't break nothing, because this is a champion team.''
Agent says he came within a hairs width of signing with Memphis.
In the end tho, it appears playing with good friend and top level SG Manu GNob and the team oriented Spurs is what made FO come to San Antone.
Reality posted : "So what if Oberto ends up being a solid role player? Will fit just fine
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Reality posted : "So what if Oberto ends up being a solid role player? Will fit just fine
The problem is he is NOT a solid role player, unless you call sitting on the bech a "solid role".
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Reality posted : "So what if Oberto ends up being a solid role player? Will fit just fine
The problem is he is NOT a solid role player, unless you call sitting on the bech a "solid role".
The year is not over yet you bafoon. For the 1st 25 games I do not know why Pop is having Duncan play the teams most minutes and Fabs crusting on the bench 2 out of 3 games. The future will unveil the secret weaponry of Fabs.
Tell Lurker and Xs three you want a good cold beer.
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Atleast we won't have to worry about back to backs in the playoffs...
Spurs are not exactly dominatiog other teams, in fact the # of squeaker wins combined with Dallas being one game behind could concern the bandwaggon Spurs followers. But ATL has been beating other teams and Okla City has a great home court crowd so....the losses sucks but bottom line 19-5 is a great start.
Yeah the game leading up to the marquee Dec 25th Spurs-Pistons game has the Spurs completing 4-5 roadies and being at Detroit. That and Manu being out could take some luster off the game. But hard to feel sorry for the Spurs when they picked up the two most sought after free agents in Finley and Fabs Oberto. Fabs again showed off his offensive prowess last night in going 2-2 (thats 1.000 percentage Randy and WOW) to add to his yearly shooting total of well over .500%.
Why is Rasho getting the majority of the minutes of the three headed
Spurs center monster?
Tim Dunkar said to be nursing plantar facias (sp). So are a lot of NBA players but that can bring you down for sure. He looks slow. Yet Pop has him leading the team in minutes. Completely disagree. :nonono:
Eva Longoria continues to be very good for Tony Parker. :up:
The reason Rasho is getting the start position is because Pop sees the effort he is putting forth - believe it or not Rasho IS being more aggressive then last year, he is looking to do defense first and rying to grab rebounds, not only that but his size helps in the middle. Why not Nazr or Fabs? Nazr was thrown into our sytem last year and picked it up on the fly - luckily - he got into his groove before playoffs however this year Nazr had to leave the team a spell, i think it was a new baby, maybe his wife was sick, i cant remember what the reason was, but when he came back he was not up to speed like he was last year, I think Nazr had an injury too. Why not Fabs? - Pops likes his potential, but he is also having trouble picking up our stayle and flow of basketball, both these guys could do a good job if they had minutes to perform. Pops however is seeing too much effort from Rasho and wants to get him on point more so than the others. Maybe it's because Rasho is bigger and slower he figures getting him rolling now would be better leading into the playoffs, after all Nazr is a quick learner if you put in for a few games, he could probably pick it up right now - BUT nazr also wants to look elsewhere next season to play. You may actually see Fabs getting more minutes than Nazr after the all star break to get him ready for the playoffs as well, especially since he will be with us for a few years. Now I am not saying Rasho is producing anything major, but Pop likes to see effort being put forth, right now he believes he is on track with Rasho - Pop has three rings as a coach, I will leave it in his hands and trust he is making the right choice. Besides, I am in NO WAY worried about our chanes to win this season. Detroit IS impressive, no doubt, But I believe SA is still, and will remain, the team to beat this season. Finley is stepping up nicely, he saved us two games in a row with Manu out, and NVE has done well whenever Pop puts him in the game. this many losses this deep in the season is nothing for this team. If anything Detroit is playing thier arses off so they can hopefully grab best record for home court throughout the playoffs this year. and just like every other year, the Spurs just cruise along through the season getting themselves in good position to make a good run in the playoffs. Now worrying Reality, chill out, drink a beer, make a smmich, whatever - it's nothing to worry about right now. I just thought it was ridiculous that we have lost back to backs the way we have this season. I DO think it's more mental then physical though, which means they can fix the problem quicker than working on the physical aspect.
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Reality posted : "So what if Oberto ends up being a solid role player? Will fit just fine
The problem is he is NOT a solid role player, unless you call sitting on the bech a "solid role".
The year is not over yet you bafoon. For the 1st 25 games I do not know why Pop is having Duncan play the teams most minutes and Fabs crusting on the bench 2 out of 3 games. The future will unveil the secret weaponry of Fabs.
Tell Lurker and Xs three you want a good cold beer.
You just said yourself that the Spurs are not dominating teams like they should be so that probably explains why Duncan is getting heavy minutes.
As for why "Fabs" is sitting on the bench 2 of 3 games yet you dont understand.....maybe its cuz Pop, one of the best judges of talent in this league, doesnt seem to think half as highly of "fabs" as you do. IMO he just is too much of a defensive liability to keep out there for heavy minutes.
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As for why "Fabs" is sitting on the bench 2 of 3 games yet you dont understand.....maybe its cuz Pop, one of the best judges of talent in this league, doesnt seem to think half as highly of "fabs" as you do. IMO he just is too much of a defensive liability to keep out there for heavy minutes.
I think Flab Obencho's true worth is massaging Manu's widdle ankle. You will hear Pop give glowing props for Obench-O's "off court contributions".
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You just said yourself that the Spurs are not dominating teams like they should be so that probably explains why Duncan is getting heavy minutes.
That may have been a logical presumption on your part but for Spurs insiders it only means again pressing the Auto-Wrong button.
110-85 blowout over Orlando. Duncan high minutes, SuperFabs only 3.
98-84 TNT t.v. game over Miami, Duncan hi 37 min, SuperFabs only 2. Whats amazing about this is Duncan also was on the floor till the end with Spurs up by double digits+. W-h-y?
xs3 wrote: "You may actually see Fabs getting more minutes than Nazr after the all star break to get him ready for the playoffs as well, especially since he will be with us for a few years."
Now there is some logic.
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xs3 wrote: "You may actually see Fabs getting more minutes than Nazr after the all star break to get him ready for the playoffs as well, especially since he will be with us for a few years."
Now there is some logic.
More like wishful and desperate thinking.
Flabs Obencho will only get time if the Spurs bigs go down. If the Spurs stay injury free, the kid who wipes the sweat of the court after a player falls down will get more time on the court than Flabs.
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xs3 wrote: "You may actually see Fabs getting more minutes than Nazr after the all star break to get him ready for the playoffs as well, especially since he will be with us for a few years."
Now there is some logic.
More like wishful and desperate thinking.
Flabs Obencho will only get time if the Spurs bigs go down. If the Spurs stay injury free, the kid who wipes the sweat of the court after a player falls down will get more time on the court than Flabs.
There is no way that the Spurs would sign this guy to the contract he has to sit on the bench as much as you make it sound like he will. I mean they already hjad Sean Marks if they really wanted that. Fabs contract is too high to stay on the bench for good. Pop will get on this guys arse to play harder, and I am sure Manu will put pressure on him as well. I am not saying this guyn is the greatest thing in the league or anything like that, but Pop WILL want a return on the investment soon.
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xs3 wrote: "You may actually see Fabs getting more minutes than Nazr after the all star break to get him ready for the playoffs as well, especially since he will be with us for a few years."Â
Now there is some logic.
More like wishful and desperate thinking.
Flabs Obencho will only get time if the Spurs bigs go down. If the Spurs stay injury free, the kid who wipes the sweat of the court after a player falls down will get more time on the court than Flabs.
There is no way that the Spurs would sign this guy to the contract he has to sit on the bench as much as you make it sound like he will. I mean they already hjad Sean Marks if they really wanted that. Fabs contract is too high to stay on the bench for good. Pop will get on this guys arse to play harder, and I am sure Manu will put pressure on him as well. I am not saying this guyn is the greatest thing in the league or anything like that, but Pop WILL want a return on the investment soon.
I dont think he will sit on the bench for good but Pop is not the type of guy to play a person just because they have a big contract. He plays the guys who he thinks work best in his system and get the job done, right now it doesnt look like "Fabs" is that guy at the moment. If he was then Pop would play him more minutes. IMO it has to do with his defense. Anyone can shoot jump shots but not everyone can play tough nose defense in the paint.
The Spurs are not twinkies...they are not soft in the middle and that is why they are the best team in the league. Do you want someone to alter shots and rebound or a guy who can hit a jump shot that 200 other players can do? Not to mention theres like 5 guys on the team who can flat out shoot.
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xs3 wrote: "You may actually see Fabs getting more minutes than Nazr after the all star break to get him ready for the playoffs as well, especially since he will be with us for a few years."Â
Now there is some logic.
More like wishful and desperate thinking.
Flabs Obencho will only get time if the Spurs bigs go down. If the Spurs stay injury free, the kid who wipes the sweat of the court after a player falls down will get more time on the court than Flabs.
There is no way that the Spurs would sign this guy to the contract he has to sit on the bench as much as you make it sound like he will. I mean they already hjad Sean Marks if they really wanted that. Fabs contract is too high to stay on the bench for good. Pop will get on this guys arse to play harder, and I am sure Manu will put pressure on him as well. I am not saying this guyn is the greatest thing in the league or anything like that, but Pop WILL want a return on the investment soon.
Hmm, really? No way that the Spurs pay him this kind of a contract to sit the bench? You mean the way they were paying Malik Rose fat money to ride the pine? Nope, no way they would do that (even though they have in the past).
Face it, the guy MIGHT be a decent back-up -- but right now he can't even beat out RASHO for playing time!!! :rofl:
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xs3 wrote: "You may actually see Fabs getting more minutes than Nazr after the all star break to get him ready for the playoffs as well, especially since he will be with us for a few years."Â
Now there is some logic.
More like wishful and desperate thinking.
Flabs Obencho will only get time if the Spurs bigs go down. If the Spurs stay injury free, the kid who wipes the sweat of the court after a player falls down will get more time on the court than Flabs.
There is no way that the Spurs would sign this guy to the contract he has to sit on the bench as much as you make it sound like he will. I mean they already hjad Sean Marks if they really wanted that. Fabs contract is too high to stay on the bench for good. Pop will get on this guys arse to play harder, and I am sure Manu will put pressure on him as well. I am not saying this guyn is the greatest thing in the league or anything like that, but Pop WILL want a return on the investment soon.
Hmm, really? No way that the Spurs pay him this kind of a contract to sit the bench? You mean the way they were paying Malik Rose fat money to ride the pine? Nope, no way they would do that (even though they have in the past).
Face it, the guy MIGHT be a decent back-up -- but right now he can't even beat out RASHO for playing time!!! :rofl:
good point.
However I am still not ready to throw ion the towel on Oberto. While I am not as hyped on Oberto as Reality is, I will still wait and see what pans out withy the guy, I DO expect the Spurs to look for a return on the investment and start pushing him.
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Fabs contract is too high to stay on the bench for good. Pop will get on this guys arse to play harder, and I am sure Manu will put pressure on him as well.
good point.
However I am still not ready to throw ion the towel on Oberto. While I am not as hyped on Oberto as Reality is, I will still wait and see what pans out withy the guy, I DO expect the Spurs to look for a return on the investment and start pushing him. [/quote]
Why do you say pushing him as if he is not exerting himself as hard as he can at present :huh: I see Oberto effort on the floor.
If Pop is simply going to elect not to play him, what can he do?
Xs3 I have seen Duncan in for the final minute of games where Spurs are up 10+ many times this year with Fabs on the bench. What's the point? Pop is a defensive :hail: :hail: but he is no offensive genius. Props to him last year for acquiesing and letting the Spurs run when appropriate.
Just as Pop for a time had some kind of grudge against Malik, does he have some beef with Oberto? Malik and Pop left on great terms, Malik said they butted heads plenty of times but he respected him nonetheless.
Perhaps Pops wife likes Obertos long silky hair and Pop notices and is pissed.
For the Laker whiners who think Berto is a bust, ha! we have 75% of the reg season left and then the real season -the playoffs.
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I DO expect the Spurs to look for a return on the investment and start pushing him.
They're going to push his weak arse out the door.
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For the Laker whiners who think Berto is a bust, ha! we have 75% of the reg season left and then the real season -the playoffs.
For the FAR less gifted than I, we could have 99.99% of the season left and it STILL would not make a difference for Flabs ObenchO.
Maybe Flabs Obencho and Darko Milisecond could sell pretzels durring games to keep the heart pumping and actually EARN some of that cash they're getting.
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Maybe Flabs Obencho and Darko Milisecond could sell pretzels durring games to keep the heart pumping and actually EARN some of that cash they're getting.
Or they could make a documentary on why Kobme shoots so much and the Lakers were/are? out of the playoffs.
Darko being all of 21 and Fabs being in his 1st year with The Championship Machine :up:
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Or they could make a documentary on why Kobme shoots so much and the Lakers were/are? out of the playoffs.
That's fine by me, at least Flabs would be doing SOMETHING. Plus he's gotten real good at sitting on the bench, he could probably film the whole movie from there.
Darko being all of 21 and Fabs being in his 1st year with The Championship Machine :up:
How may titles does that "Championship Machine" have? Oh that's right, they are TIED with Kobe. We really wouldn't want to compare franchise championships cause you'd have to take off your shoes to count that high for the Lakers.
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Or they could make a documentary on why Kobme shoots so much and the Lakers were/are? out of the playoffs.
That's fine by me, at least Flabs would be doing SOMETHING. Plus he's gotten real good at sitting on the bench, he could probably film the whole movie from there.
Darko being all of 21 and Fabs being in his 1st year with The Championship Machine :up:
How may titles does that "Championship Machine" have? Oh that's right, they are TIED with Kobe. We really wouldn't want to compare franchise championships cause you'd have to take off your shoes to count that high for the Lakers.
I just love the way Wow tries to make it sound as if he is a lost cause this far into the season. :rofl:
Randy could have a point, but he could also be wrong, no biggie, I will wait to see what this guy can do.
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Or they could make a documentary on why Kobme shoots so much and the Lakers were/are? out of the playoffs.
That's fine by me, at least Flabs would be doing SOMETHING. Plus he's gotten real good at sitting on the bench, he could probably film the whole movie from there.
Darko being all of 21 and Fabs being in his 1st year with The Championship Machine :up:
How may titles does that "Championship Machine" have? Oh that's right, they are TIED with Kobe. We really wouldn't want to compare franchise championships cause you'd have to take off your shoes to count that high for the Lakers.
I just love the way Wow tries to make it sound as if he is a lost cause this far into the season. :rofl:
Randy could have a point, but he could also be wrong, no biggie, I will wait to see what this guy can do.
I am not trying or guessing, I know what this guy is going to be, I posted it before the season started.
I'm actually surprised he's doing worse than I thought.
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You REALLY need to make sure you post these things under the right name -- you've slipped up a lot lately!
As for Beto, it's okay -- we have always known you were a closet Spurs fan!!! But try this sometime: "okay, I was w r o n g!!!"
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You REALLY need to make sure you post these things under the right name -- you've slipped up a lot lately!
As for Beto, it's okay -- we have always known you were a closet Spurs fan!!! But try this sometime: "okay, I was w r o n g!!!"
WTF! Are you a product of the Dover School system?
I've been saying Bencho will be nothing in this league, I'm just giving Reality a hard time about being sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong AGAIN! Reality is just NOT in my league as far as b-ball smarts, he's more of a WNBA level type of armchair basket "balla". Apartently there are a buch of "And One" ballers reading my posts and getting confused.
JoMal and Skader, where art thou!